Have seen a few posts popping up recently just straight up calling fo violence barely disguised as memes

Had thought Lemmy had chilled out a bit on that kinda thing for a while but seems to be coming back now

Anyone else noticing the same or just me?

  • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 days ago

    Unfortunately not, it would be interpreted as retribution (at least by the courts). Immediacy means something like “guy with knife threatening to stab you right now,” BUT if you pull your gun to do so and he starts walking away that’s it, it’s over, if you shoot him at that point you’ll be argued to be the aggressor and will lose your case. As such, having a claim denied and then traveling to wherever this guy is and likely planning for months is called “premeditation,” not “self defense.”

    You may disagree, but that’s the court’s opinion.

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      6 days ago

      I didn’t think we were talking about the law. I thought we were talking about personal moral considerations, which don’t have much to do with the law or courts.

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        6 days ago

        carry permit if your state needs it, and learning the laws regarding use of force in your area. Also buy/carry OC spray if it’s legal (for instance it isn’t legal in NYC) in case he ends up being a threat, but not a deadly threat.

        Those are all laws.

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        5 days ago

        True, sometimes juries fail, personally I wouldn’t bet on it and would err on the side of caution but that’s your own choice to make I suppose.

        (It also helps if you’re the “right” color shooting the “right” color in the “right” state/county… but… otherwise it helps to have your ducks in a row.)

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          5 days ago

          I genuinely laughed. Politician style or hospitality industry style? I’ve so many questions!