if it takes you 20 shots to neutralize a threat at point-blank, I don’t think you should be allowed to own a gun
Fun thing in Australia, you don’t need to be able to hit a target to get a gun licence. Licences tests are more focused on firearm safety.
I mean, that’s how it should be. Just like getting drivers license requires you to demonstrate you can drive safely, so should a firearms license.
In my country we’re required to set an acceptable lap time around the local racetrack.
Finland?
Local race track, formerly air field, future housing project.
Drive safely and not hit things even.
So, like the gun test.
5.7 is known to be pretty terrible for its “stopping power” for lack of a better term. Its a handgun round design to penetrate body armor. In doing so it had to make sacrifices in bullet dimensions and weight. It performs similarly to a .22 magnum round which is a frankly wimpy cartridge meant for small game like rabbits.
So 20 rounds to stop a human isn’t stretching the truth too much.
Sounds like the wrong gun to carry for personal defense
But 20? Like if you get shot once, hell, more than once, wouldn’t you just more or less drop from the pain?
In high stress situations people frequently don’t even realize they got shot until after the adrenaline wears off. In my EMR course they trained us that we need to physically check for bullet wounds ourselves if a shooting was suspected because you can’t rely on the victim knowing that they’ve been shot.
That’s why mag dumping is more or less standard practice in survival situations. Sure, 1 bullet may kill the person, but it probably won’t do so for several minutes and until then you’ve only pissed them off. So you shoot and keep shooting until they actually drop. Which, when you’re talking about a particularly wimpy round like the one above, can take far more bullets that most people expect.
This is one of the most American comments I’ve ever read.
Kind of like how I unload an entire can of bug spray at the wasp that came into my house.
As a European this is my only frame of reference.
20 rounds of 5.7x28 are like what, 10 to 30 bucks when bought in bulk? I don’t know how that contrasts with carrying a $700 gun around.
Uh because the gun isn’t consumable and the ammo is???
Look at this guy, carrying around a used gun.
5.7 has gone down in price with more guns coming out it in. Buying 20 rounds of defensive ammo in 5.7 in 2019 would have easily been much more than $30. Still less than $700 but probably more than just handing over all your cash
I want to say 5.7 went up 2019/2020 something crazy, there are old forum threads referencing pricing on Ammoseek from around that time, about $1.8 per round is the most expensive I could find.
But yeah, I didn’t even check the date on the original post.
