Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy tells Suspilne media platform that under US president-elect Donald Trump the war in Ukraine will end quicker, according to Suspilne website.
Trump, who takes office in January, has said he’d seek a quick deal between Kyiv and Moscow.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz held a phone call earlier on Friday, the first direct communication between the leaders in almost two years and discussed the war in Ukraine.
So Trump insists that Ukraine surrenders and Zelenskyy goes along with it I assume is what’s being said here? Now, does Ukraine give up all their land or just what the Russians have captured so they can take the rest later?
I’d assume what they already captured. Also, I don’t think they’ll have any other option. At least it would be better than losing all the funding and weapons from the US and end up losing their whole country. Trump could very well throw a temper tantrum if they didn’t agree on his “best deal in the history of mankind” as he might call it.
Yes, the deal might contain a freeze-frame solution for the already captured territories. They would be declared demilitarized zones (under russian administration). In addition to that, Ukraine needs to agree not to join NATO (IMO for the next 20 years or so).
It would be a net victory for Russia.
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Several social media comments I read 😊
Ukraine needs to agree not to join NATO for the next 20 years
This is just delaying the war; neither side will agree to this.
I think Z must be playing the game: stroke Trump’s ego.
Referring Zelenskyy as Z which is the pro-Russian war on Ukraine is offensive, isn’t it? Also it’s about the survival of his people, that only shows he can put his ego aside and try to appease Trump, something Trump couldn’t ever do.
If this were about the survival of his people then he wouldn’t have scuttled the Minsk Agreements. And he would have taken a much better peace deal ~2.5 years ago then he’ll ever get now, saving tens to hundreds of thousands of his people’s lives. But it isn’t about the Ukrainian people, it’s about the Ukrainian state and his own hide. It’s certainly not about the men being dragged off the streets by conscription squads and shoved out to the front line to die.
Russia had no reason to invade Ukraine in the first place.
Right: iT WAs uNProVoKEd!
- 1: NATO expansion
- George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard
- Jeffrey Sachs, May 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
- Jeffrey Sachs, Sep. 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine
- 2: US-backed western Ukranians ethnically cleansing eastern Ukraine
- Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
- Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
- Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
- Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
- NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
- History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
From pagan tribes, to autocratic Princedoms, to autocratic Tsarsoms, to the CCCP, to Putin. This is what they know.
Essentialist bullshit. You may as well say, from feudalism to capitalist settler-colonial genocide & slavery to imperialism: this is all we know.
I’ll take the CCCP, or even modern Russia—as shitty as it is—over this:
- World Incarceration Rates If Every U.S. State Were A Country
- List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
- A Detailed Chronological List of US Interventions, Invasions, Destabilzations, and Assistance to Oppressive Regimes (ending in 2002)
- The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
- Shock therapy (economics)
- Are We The Baddies?
- The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
- Infographic: US military presence around the world The US controls about 750 bases in at least 80 countries worldwide and spends more on its military than the next 10 countries combined.
- Michael Parenti: Africa is Rich
This was an invasion that did not need to happen.
Davel is still deepthroating the Russian pp I see
- 1: NATO expansion
Are negotiations finally happening behind the scenes? Ffs could’ve just done this from the beginning. Fuck boris
Because negotiations will be bad for Ukraine, but they are forced now cause trump.
Why Fuck Boris?
Thanks. I’m not from the UK, I don’t remember what Boris Johnson did in 2022.
I’m also curious about why they said that, but tbh, Fuck Boris (Johnson) is a fair thing to say pretty much anytime.
Hehe
Fuck Boris. But not for that. Surrender is not an option.
Russia won, it’s time to start engaging with reality.
End the war in Ukraine so that the US can double its war efforts in the Middle East. Is that Trump’s plan?
Don’t also forget about East Asia.
