• 🤔 Apple has shared why the power button on the Mac Mini M4 is hidden
  • 🤏 It’s mainly because of the Mac Mini’s compact size
  • 🤷‍♂️ But also because users apparently never use the power button on a Mac
  • 👉 Apple also says the button can be accessed easily, even though it’s underneath
  • garretble@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    The power button is one of the biggest non stories this year.

    Who doesn’t just put their computers to sleep 99% of the time?

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      1 month ago

      Not for you, but it’s an issue if you’re using Mac Minis as unattended service devices that are hard mounted and will occasionally need to be reset by hand (think kiosks and AV systems in conference room).

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        1 month ago

        Then, you open it up and lead two wires to the rack front panel where your new accessible power button is mounted

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    1 month ago

    Total lazy design a power button is just a small button and some wires it could be anywhere

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      1 month ago

      Completely playing devils advocate here but by having it on the bottom isint it right there on the same plane of the main board therefore making it easier to manufacture by simply having smt components vs having manual wires routed elsewhere/long plastic stick power button running the entire height of the machine internally. Its may be lazy but could it also not be efficient?

      Imo the way to resolve probably like 80% of the complaints for this would be just have the edge of the machine sit just high enough above whatever surface it is on by way of feet or a thicker base. Just enough be able to put a finger under there and press it. Not very unlike monitors and TVs have done for ages at this point

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    1 month ago

    “Honestly, most people almost never use the power button a Mac,” one executive remarked.

    Ford: Most people never open their hood so we put the lever under the back seat.

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      Charging port under the mouse is a non issue too, the battery lasts for weeks and even if you need to charge it in a pinch, you can plug it in for less than a minute and you’ll be good for a few hours.

      It is however extremely good at making people talk about it, and that’s why they’ve been keeping it this way for 10 years

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        1 month ago

        Yeah no. When that mouse dies in the middle of a project call, and you have to scramble to open your laptop lid to get to the track pad, and that flips your display layout while you’re sharing screen: no thanks, I’ll stick with any other mouse.

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          I will too because it’s a garbage mouse for anybody who uses a computer for more than 30mins a day, but the position of the charging port has nothing to do with it in my opinion.

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          1 month ago

          Lol, as if macOS would not warn you with way enough time prior death of the mouse…

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          1 month ago

          Because it has obvious room for it. The shape of the Magic Mouse doesn’t have any, and a hole at the front or back would look stupid.

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    1 month ago

    Mac Minis are primarily used as home or small business servers. They get rebooted, but rarely turned off. It makes sense now that I know the button is accessible without lifting the Mac Mini.

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    29 days ago

    There are tons of listing for cheap Mac’s on marketplace now. Even Mac studios. The mini M4 is a very good deal. Super happy with mine.

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    1 month ago

    But also because users apparently never use the power button on a Mac

    Because people who can afford a Mac can also afford the energy bill for having a computer running or standbying 24/7?

    *scnr*

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      My understanding is that M4 is very efficient, and I would imagine that its energy use on sleep is negligible.

      And as for affordability, I think the M4 Mac mini is supposed to be a terrific deal, no? As long as you use the base specs.

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        Yep, from what I’ve seen the base model is actually great value, especially for an Apple product. But that value disappears very quickly if you want to boost any of the specs, because they still massively overcharge for upgrades.