• A new patch is being quietly pushed to Windows 10 (and 11) PCs
  • It’ll force upgrades in certain circumstances to keep the PC in support
  • This update will mean more nag prompts coming to your PC
  • radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 month ago

    The nagging to pay for the OneDrive subscription is something I would only see on trashy websites full of ads. I guess that’s what Windows has become.

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      I figured to turn on one drive for my business user account as I was using two computers.

      Then I decided, that I didn’t want it to sync the documents folder since I don’t really use it.

      The settings told me that it can’t stop syncing the desktop, pictures, or documents folders because they had critical files or something like that.

      I just signed out of OneDrive and the problem was solved.

      If it was so critical why does everything work after signing out?

      I fucking hate using windows.

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      1 month ago

      Google is the same. Every time I open the stock gallery app instead of the FOSS one it nags me to enable backups for my photos. And I know if I do I will be forced to pay their subscription.

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    How is it gonna nag me to upgrade to Windows 11 when I don’t have a TPM?

    I’d love to upgrade, the system is completely capable of running it, but because it doesn’t have a useless bit of hardware I can’t. Fuck em.

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    1 month ago

    And when you try to install, they’ll say “no you can’t, get a new computer”

    Microsoft is really in to the Year of Linux Desktop thing

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        Always remember to disable secureboot and remove bitlocker before installing linux on a oem windows machine. They make it hell to remove that malware from newer machines.

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          Bitlocker doesn’t mean anything when you delete its partition.

          I would recommend keeping secure boot enabled if your OS supports it, and manually enrolling the key if it doesn’t. Boot chain attacks are a real concern.

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            Some linux installers will refuse to erase the bitlocker partition automatically. Then you have to manually erase it before running the installer.

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        I get that, and this is likely what I will do for my existing PCs. The reason I ask is three fold: 1) To save time. I don’t have a ton of spare time, so I would rather spend it gaming than messing around with wiping drives and installing stuff. 2) To encourage my friends to switch over, many of whom are less likely to spend time and effort than I am. 3) This is less important, but wouldn’t I be paying for a windows license I won’t even use? Not a fan of wasting the money, not a fan of paying Microsoft for a service I’m actively fighting to get away from.

        Nonetheless, thanks, I will try to find some time to fiddle with installing on an older machine I have and see how that goes.

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          1. The actual time needed to wipe out Windows and install is under 30 minutes.
          2. See above.
          3. Prebuilt machines use OEM keys, which are $10-$20 at best - whoever you buy the system from is definitely getting a volume discount. In my opinion, a small sacrifice to be free of M$.
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      1 month ago

      I have a system76 machine. It’s been really good with steam. Or a steam deck, it’s just a PC.

      Their laptops are not worth it if I’m honest. They have issues with the hinges. I had two of them give out. They use a very cheap plastic. But you are guaranteed no driver issues if you use PoPOS on their own machines.

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      Yeah, you buy a gaming PC with Windows and you insert a USB stick and install Linux. Otherwise, you’ll be paying a high premium for a company that does basically the same thing. Things to look out for are try to find a PC with Intel networking and bluetooth adapters. Realtek is relatively well supported, but has been known to have issues.

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        If gaming is top priority. Go all amd, disregard Nvidia. AMD has extraordinary linux support and if it runs on the steam deck it will run on any all AMD machine.

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          True, but Nvidia has come a long way and I believe announced support in the recent months, but don’t quote me on the last part. I have a desk and laptop both with Nvidia GPUs, and I don’t have any issues. Wayland did not work until 4-6 months ago, but everything is pretty stable now.

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            My biggest fear is that so far Nvidia has a track record of introducing regressions and new bugs with each new driver version. Just a week ago all my flatpaks weren’t working on Wayland, again. It happens almost with every single update. Some games that are native or platinum randomly stop working and it takes several updates before they start working again. While on AMD everything just works all the time and regressions are solved in a day not weeks. It’s just annoying.

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              That’s fair. My next build will be AMD. I only switched to Linux the past December, and I already had my gear, so it is what it is for now. Further, my case is too small for new GPUs, so I’m riding my 2080ti to the end.

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      I built one — took about 4 hours once all the parts arrived. My first build. Installed Linux Mint from a flash drive and it worked perfectly. Ended up switching to Zorin OS later — also works fine.

      I have been able to play every game I wanted, except one requiring a VR headset.

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    Is there anyway to permanently stop windows from updating? I tried few methods off YT but updates do not stop.

    (No, don’t recommend me Linux. I have tried it(Mint and Manjaro) and it is way out of my skillset)

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      I’m glad to see someone not downvoted for refusing to use Linux on Lemmy. The environment here is getting better for even non-linux users.

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        The US (which is usally a majority as it was for Reddit) just hasnt woken up yet /s

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        1 month ago

        Woah, thanks for dropping the link. I did disable w10 update by modifying registry for each services which time consuming.

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      Yes, but I wouldn’t recommend it. Every day, attackers develop new methods to compromise your system. Those updates fix the vulnerabilities. In this increasingly connected age, those fixes are critical.

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      Absolutely, yes, I’ve had it disabled since the first W10 feature update. It gets harder with every new release, but it is doable.

      You need to manually disable these services with Regedit

      -Update Orchestrator (UsoSvc)

      -Windows Update Medic Service (WaaSMedicSvc)

      -Windows Update (wuauserv)

      -Microsoft Edge Update Service (edgeupdate + edgeupdatem)

      -Microsoft Edge Elevation Service (MicrosoftEdgeElevationService)

      Then you need to go into Task Scheduler and disable all the tasks under the services listed above. I’d also suggest not using Edge, as it will now aggressively repair Windows Update, even with all this stuff disabled.

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      you could always just find the folder windows update lives in and change the permissions so the system can’t access it.

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    If they keep this up when are they going to offer to buy me a new PC for the new OS?

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    Bro istg if I reboot my windows separate ssd and it’s windows 11 am fully gonna use Linux

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    I actually had a nightmare last night that my computer updated itself to some horrid version of windows and I spent it all frantically looking for my windows 7 ISO and keygen among old backups to blow it away and start again.

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    its bad enough i have to constantly kill the oobe crap every few minutes. glad i dont have that to pile on

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    We’ll see. I’ve set the Group policy to limit feature updates to Win 10 22H2. I will be unhappy if they over-ride or reset a GPO.

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    Until the AI stuff I would have loved to get an upgrade. Now… Not so much. And good thing my computer doesn’t qualify due to their arbitrary standards.

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      Genuine question: why not try Linux? You’ll continue to get updates without the nagware. There are very few games I play that cant run on proton at this point.

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        30 days ago

        Multiplayer gaming. I love games like Foxhole and they usually have a bit of trouble on Linux.

  • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Stuff like this is why I disabled the TPM on my computer. No TPM means that you’re “not eligible” for 11, meaning I don’t get nagged by the random full screen pop-ups.

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      I updated my bios at some point and it turned on the TPM again, be careful! When I got an update window and quite the shock, I added a group policy to block the update as a backup.