Is It Veterans’ Day, Veteran’s Day, or Veterans Day?

As November 11 approaches, some people may wonder how to write the name of the November 11 American holiday that commemorates the end of world-war hostilities in 1918 and 1945 as well as all who have served the U.S. Armed Forces. Do we use an apostrophe when spelling Veterans Day?

The answer is no. According to the U.S. Department of Defense, “The holiday is not a day that ‘belongs’ to one veteran or multiple veterans, which is what an apostrophe implies. It’s a day for honoring all veterans, so no apostrophe needed.”

  • jagungal@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Can we not celebrate the people who have made sacrifices for their country and for ideals like freedom, and support those people because they have inadequate support from the government who ordered their sacrifices, while also decrying the actions and behaviours which we see as morally wrong?

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      2 months ago

      Man, that’s a uniquely disgusting way to remember the folks killed to save their country and other countries from domination.

      You might try and fuck off with that attitude for one day

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        2 months ago

        I never said they are not useful or necessary. But I refuse to consider murder to be something heroic. Now if your moral structure allows you to consider that killing can be good, I just hope for you that people who don’t like you don’t think the same.

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      2 months ago

      they are when the folks they killed were fascists. Also, hot take here, I’m pretty sure that the US occupation o Afghanistan was better than the current system in place there.

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        Of the 18 million veterans alive in the US, only 66,000 are WWII veterans who fought against fascists. The rest of them did nothing but murder children in asia, south america, and the middle east for drugs, oil, and money.

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          2 months ago

          I dunno man, an official government which forbids women to literally even speak sounds a lot worse than the shit the US pulled when we propped up Hamid Karzai.

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            2 months ago

            Whats happening in Afghanistan did not start or end two minutes ago, that’s such a simplistic take.

            Don’t presume everyone you engage with online is a man. You’re dismissing a woman while pretending to champion women.

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        they are when the folks they killed were fascists

        Ah but it’s OK because the people I killed were all baddies!

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          Yes, actually. I’m not saying that all killing is moral. but there are actually objectively bad people and organizations in the world. In one or two wars the US fought in, the US soldiers were actually fighting against objectively evil people and organizations. It’s fine to shoot nazis and slavers.

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            Obviously most people agree that WW2 was justified to stop the Nazis conquering the world, but you can’t just say “it’s OK to kill someone because they’re X”, because then you just need to label whoever you dislike as part of that out-group and suddenly you’ve justified killing whoever you want.

            It’s never fine to say “it’s fine to kill all X”. You need to stop fascists, but you can do that without fucking killing anyone you’ve decided is evil.

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              it’s fine to kill all X when X is objectively evil, like Nazis and slavers. They aren’t your friends, they’ll kill you and everyone you love without a second thought. It’s not time to play the nuance game and say “but but but killing is bad!”, yeah it is. it is bad.but the only way to stop fascism is by killing it. y you can’t debate it when the boot’s on your neck.

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                I’m assuming the person you’re imagining to be objectively bad is either literally Hitler or a skinhead neonazi with swastika tattoos and a history of violence, right? What about people who joined the Nazi party because the alternative was having their lives destroyed, or the kid with a bad home life who was radicalised by a gang of thugs who are his only friends? They’re both fascists and victims of fascism, where do you draw the line at who should be killed?

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                  The line being drawn isn’t based on morality, it’s defending yourself and even more innocent people. By the time that radicalized guy has already become a Nazi, it no longer matters why he did it - he’s a danger to everyone, a rabid dog.

                  It absolutely sucks to see this happen to someone who used to be a person.