Summary

King Felipe VI of Spain faced a hostile crowd in Valencia, where unprecedented floods have devastated communities, leaving over 200 dead and many missing. Footage shows protesters shouting “murderer” and “shame” at the king, with some throwing objects and mud as he walked through the affected area of Paiporta.

  • ynazuma@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Your ignorance is overwhelming

    Have you ever been to Spain? It is one of the most livable countries in Europe. Madrid has become the most desirable capital city in Western Europe in the last few years. The road and rail networks are superior to most developed countries. The healthcare system works better than almost any country you can point at. Its banks, construction companies, universities are some of the best and largest in the world.

    How is Spain backwards?

    Disclaimer: I am not, nor have I ever been, Spanish

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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      They raped, murdered and pillaged my ancestors and up until the but very distant past. So pardon me for holding a grudge

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        Much more recently, Germans put a bunch of my ancestors in ovens. I don’t hold a grudge with the ones who had nothing to do with it (i.e. almost every German alive today).

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          Germany was forced to clean up house, though.

          Franco died in bed (in extreme agony, apparently; the only good thing the bastard ever did; but still), naming his successor, whose son is the current unelected parasite on the throne. The dictator’s children and grandchildren are public figures, celebrated and followed by embarrassingly large portions of the population.

          The murderers and torturers who worked for him kept their jobs, were forgiven all their crimes, and their children and grandchildren succeed them (old money and contacts in high places go a long way towards winning elections).

          The supposed “transition” merely put some new wallpaper on top of the existing structures, with a watered down constitution voted under military threats: vote for it, or else, even going as far as staging a coup attempt so that Franco’s successor could “save the day”, become a hero, and water the new supposed democracy down even further.

          Do not compare Spain to Germany. It’s extremely insulting to Germany.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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            Last I checked, Franco did not sire the entire Spanish population. Who you are blaming for things that happened before any of them were born.

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              Franco did not sire the entire Spanish population.

              No, but he did kill, or drive into exile or poverty and political irrelevance anyone who didn’t share his views.

              Most of the surviving population, especially the ones with economic and political power, were fascists. Their children were fascists. Their grandchildren were fascists wearing progressive masks. And their great grandchildren are fascists who’ve taken off their masks.

              When the bastard said he left everything “tied up and well tied up” he wasn’t kidding.

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                No, but he did kill, or drive into exile or poverty and political irrelevance anyone who didn’t share his views.

                Those people were also Spanish. The ones you condemn for what they did to your ancestors. So shouldn’t you be in favor of that?

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                    I’m just going with your reasoning.

                    So there are good Spanish people that are still descended from the evil people who did things to your ancestors and they don’t deserve contempt?

                    Because that goes against everything else you’ve said.

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        I might have bad news for you: your ancestors raped murdered and pillaged someones ancestors. I don’t even need to know where exactly you’re from to make this statement with full confidence.

        So hold your grudge if you want, just don’t be hypocritical about it.

      • ynazuma@lemmy.world
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        Yeah man, my ancestors were raped, murdered, and tortured by a European country in the XX’th century.

        I don’t hold this generation accountable for the crimes of their forefathers.

        Move on

        • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
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          Most other states tend not to celebrate their raping, murdering, and pillaging as a national holiday, though.

          And there’s also the fact that most Spanish politicians are descendants of those that served under the coupist dictator Franco (who nominated the current parasite in chief’s father as his successor), and share the same political views, as does a nauseatingly high portion of the population.

          Move on

          No.