AOC speech at the 2024 Democratic National Convention

  • JonsJava@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    News has in the past allowed videos that are relevant to the community topic - news. Allowing this to stay.

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      OK thanks, 👍 😀
      I changed the title, but I think my original was more accurate apart from the (amazing) which is obviously subjective, and I did put in parenthesis for that reason.

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    4 months ago

    I adore AOC. I look forward to when she runs for president, too.

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    I would have posted this to c/politics, because I found it weird it wasn’t already posted. But their rule #1 apparently only allows posting articles?
    But IMO this speech is absolutely worth seeing if you have ANY interest in American politics.

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      The normal work around would be to find a news article that embedded the full speech but thanks for posting it here! I saw the Warnock speech but I missed catching AOC live.

      • Buffalox@lemmy.worldOP
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        I messaged one of the mods, asking why videos that are clearly relevant can’t be posted.
        If I post a link to an article with the video, the video becomes secondary to the article.
        The video represent what was actually said, not some interpretation of it.

        Seems to me a weird rule, excluding relevant quality content.
        So instead of working around the rule, I chose simply not to post there. As I suspect others have done too, despite the content is super relevant to the sub.

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          4 months ago

          A PoliticalVideos community needs to be fostered. I think r/politics always had a similar rule.

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          I think that’s a perfectly reasonable reaction. When the community rules add a barrier it’s quite fair to simply refuse to participate - I’m not a mod so I don’t know why that rule is there but I appreciate you posting it here regardless.

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      4 months ago

      Yes, and she seems very strongly motivated by her own experiences that are shared by many people, and everybody is at risk having to deal with.
      She truly is a voice of the people for the people.

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    It feels like there’s still some, mostly unspoken animosity between liberals and demsocs like AOC. I think the Democrats would like people to believe that liberals and demsocs have reached a consensus, and that moderates and progressives are unified, but I think there are still philosophical and ideological differences between them, maybe even some that are irreconcilable. The liberals have definitely made a lot of concessions to the demsocs, but I think they have also tried to make it abundantly clear that the Democratic party is still a liberal party. And that’s understandable, liberalism is the predominant ideology in America. Sure, there are a lot more demsocs today than twenty years ago, but we are still heavily outnumbered.

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    4 months ago

    There’s nothing holding her back from being a great speaker like Obama. She needs more time and practice to develop her skills further to get to that next level. And maybe a better speechwriter.

    I’m definitely a fan of hers, but felt that this could have been executed better. She did not have a lot of vocal variation and came out blazing fairly early on in the speech. Not going to rewatch it, but that was my perspective from last night. At one point I was like whoa Kimberly Guilfoyle, take it down a notch.

    I do understand the need to be angry but it’s much more impactful when vocal variation, pitch, tone and volume are employed more effectively to build toward the anger.

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      With respect I tend to disagree. I and many others felt she delivered one of the best speeches of the evening, both on substance and in delivery. She delivered fire and excitement, was one of the few speakers who actually kept their cadence on pace; her speech had a clear beginning, middle, and end, and she utilized body language effectively. For her sort of debut in the national spotlight, she knocked it out of the park.

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        You mean her practiced body language? It was pretty unnatural and sometimes her timing was off which especially gave it away as a performative act.

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          Yes thank you. It didn’t read as natural - that’s the word.

          It’s disheartening that one can’t disagree on this topic without being eaten alive. I’m not saying elect Donald Trump and the couchfucker or anything ffs. Plus, I’m Canadian - so probably more left leaning than any US Dem - and as I’ve expressed, I really want the US to get their shit together.

          I’ve done Toastmasters. I’m a writer for a living. I know how to give feedback on speeches. I also acknowledged that not every speech is received the same way by every viewer.

          I’m not even saying she’s bad - I’m just saying she could be GREAT with more practice. I don’t understand why this is a shocking thing to say.

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          Sure? I mean this isn’t Juilliard. I’m not expecting perfection, but relative to historical baseline for convention speeches it was fantastic.

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      4 months ago

      It feels like there’s a bit of gender stereotyping going on here.

      Her speech was fine without your desire for her to be less intense.