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        • Thankyou for the help.
        • I tried the bullet list before and it didn’t seem to be working; it was probably me, though.
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    Air BnB is destroying the housing market in my area. That said, it’s exposing a demand for something that doesn’t otherwise exist. In addition to hotels, people also want to be able to rent larger spaces, with a kitchen so they don’t have to eat out every night, and multiple bedrooms so the adults don’t have to go to bed at the same time as the kids. Hotel developers should be taking notes.

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      You’re completely correct on the exposed demand issue. I would also add that in most cities (in the United States anyway) hotels can only exist in very specific corners of the city due to zoning, often in just three places: downtown (expensive!), the suburbs (so not even in city limits), and “motel alley” (which is usually an old highway in askeevy part of town lined with mid-20th century fleabag accommodations that are slowly being abandoned/bulldozed). For some cities this isn’t an issue, but in others it’s a problem for accessing the tourist attractions, especially if the tourists in question don’t have a rental car. Then there are the non-tourist visitors to consider: if you’re in a city to visit family, you’re probably going to want to stay as close to them as possible. Same with a lot of business travelers. This is a bit of a conundrum when the nearest hotel (or affordable/decent hotel) is a 30 minute drive away.

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      I haven’t had any issue finding those amenities in hotels in Europe (at least in Berlin, Munich, Madrid, and Málaga, which is not an exhaustive study by any means). I’ve seen a few that look to be entire small apartment buildings converted into hotels, which isn’t great for the local housing market, but all the ones I’ve stayed at were clearly built for that purpose. So that’s the good news, I guess.

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        When I vacation in Europe I stay in apart-hotels that have space, kitchenettes, etc. Just stayed in one in Munich a week or two ago even.

        They exist in Europe like most nice things that make sense do… not in the USA though. Our hotels suck, the only other option is airbnb of someone’s home which is often OVER equipped and sized for short stays.

        We need an in between but I don’t see it being made due to our awful zoning law issues and if they were to exist they’ll likely be overpriced

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    On one hand, biting that hand that feeds

    On the other, I’ve lived in buildings with AirBnBs and they’re a scourge. The owners and renters of short term rental properties are mostly (not all) awful - residents should be owning property, not spoiled rich landlords eating up space for tourists. Fuck AirBnB.

    I also visited Spain last month and I’ve never felt so unwelcomed in my life while in Barcelona and would never go back, so I guess the anti-tourism is working 😂

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      I can understand that locals are revolting around the world. The amount of tourism exploded in the last decades. The way tourists are behaving all around doesn’t help.

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      Barcelona is a diverse economic engine; it’s not a tourism monocrop town. It doesn’t need your patronage.

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      most places in the world require that you have a license for tourist renting. In theory, they inspect each unit before giving the license, to make sure it is safe. And in theory airbnb requires that license before allowing you to list on their site. If you don’t have the license, you get fined, same as if you opened a store without stablishing a formal company

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    2028… so plenty of time for appeals and there will be basically no downward pressure on the housing market there since there is no big rush to offload 10k units that won’t make money.

    It’s too bad, would have been better if they just revoked it immediately and banned it in the city.

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    I like Airbnb because it’s just like Uber, it hurt regular people and skirted regulations because the old fashioned way was stupid.

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    “Wait, what happened? We were making money. Oh, our country has been broke for a while now? Well, can we call the cruise ship guys?”

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    It’s going to hurt small time renters. I stayed in an AirBNB in 2013, it was rented out by a lovely family. It was a fantastic experience, staying in a nice neighborhood off the beaten path. We stayed for a few months, too, and we were respectful, not puking all over the place etc. A lot of locals invested in furnishing rentals for AirBNB. At least, that was the scene 9 years ago. No idea what it’s like now.

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      I had a good time in an Airbnb years ago, too, but it’s gotten more expensive over time. It’s not even that much cheaper than hotels now whenever I check.

      And we have to admit that while they serve tourists like us, it’s costing locals their chance to get housing when landlords are buying up units and houses and saving them all to rent out on Airbnb.

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        I worked for a low income apartment complex that started doing AirBnB. It’s already a 2-3 year waiting list to get a rent controlled low income apartment but they were taking units off the market because they could make more money renting them by the night.