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      Just a reminder that in France, it was people like him that were deciding who went to the guillotine. The French Revolution was a win for the bourgiousie against the aristocracy. People constantly refer to it when talking about rich people. But it was a capitalist coup.

      Think “modern US Republican Party” and you’ll understand the dynamics of the French Revolution. Wealthy businessmen whipping up the common man to be their front-line. Was capitalism better than aristocracy? Sure. But the situation is different now.

      IMO, we really need to find a better point of reference than guillotines

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        Also it was called the Reign of Terror for a reason, but 17 year-old edgelords never actually finished the chapter on the French Revolution.

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          Violent coups always are. They create a power vacuum, and it is NEVER filled with people who want to do nothing but give you free things.

          I don’t support capitalism, but thinking guillotines for the rich (even figuratively) are the answer is short-sighted.

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    “We need to remind people they work for the employer, not the other way around,”

    Whelp I guess if you work for him in any capacity you should show Mr. DumbFuck who actually needs who to survive.

    I have the urge to write a wall of text but I literally can’t. This shit is a no brainer, imagine being yet another know it all trust fund baby who gets their way by hurting people into manipulation.

    Absolute power corrupts absolutely

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      Does he not know that they are selling their labour to him? He is the client that needs them, they don’t need him. They can take their product elsewhere.

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      “We need to see unemployment rise,” he argued. "Unemployment has to jump 40 to 50 percent, in my view.

      this actually made me laugh and feel way better; he’s just a complete fucking moron and around as cruel as average

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        They are going mask off about how poverty is a feature and not a bug of our system. Without poverty the ability to exploit workers is extremely diminished. Utterly despicable, yet mfs will still defend them…

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      i love how people are supposed to return to the office just so these fucking ghouls don’t lose their office building parlays

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      I think it’s because of the high risk high reward factor of taking on a ton of leverage which is usually needed for RE. That tends to attract people looking for quick big returns without a ton of work, who are arrogant enough to think they’ll succeed where many others fail (and believe me, plenty do fail).

      The result is that only the most successful ones survive, and since they were arrogant douchebags to begin with, they think they are extra special.

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      This guy makes a great point! My employees have been significantly more uppity since the unemployment rate has been down, but at least they don’t have a union, I’ve heard horror stories from some of the other business owners at the country club.

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    Somewhere out there is a conservative going “they worked hard for what they have and shouldn’t be punished for their success.”

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    As global demographics begin their decline the value of labour can only come up. Plus the more specialised the workers the more power they possess. This guy is a delusional moron who’s fighting inevitable changes. In order to get 40% unemployment they have to assume massive losses, and we know they do anything to prevent small losses, so threat is more empty than his brain.

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      Just read the article, and holy shit is this guy delusional. 50 percent unemployment would cause massive unrest, if not total collapse of many branches of the economy. The fact he wasn’t laughed out of the room speaks volumes about these billionare circlejerk events.

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        Not to mention he seems to be confused as to why business owners don’t already just layoff a ton of people to send some sort of message and put them in their place.

        Hmmm… I wonder why that hasn’t happened… its almost as if there was some reason business owners would actually need good workers… That can’t be tho, must be something else… 🤔

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          Businesses don’t need the working class silly, they take on the burden of employing them out of the goodness of their hearts.

          😂

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            It was like someone here on Lemmy who was talking about how it was the taxpayers who made ‘meaningful contributions’ to society. I was like, “what about the people who make your food and clean your hotel room when you go on that luxury vacation?”

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          There’s this weird balance with businesses. While narcissists and sociopaths make the wealthiest business owners, many successful business owners are merely “unpleasant”.

          Look at Musk. If he were competent (and the Twitter thing wasn’t originally just an attempt to manipulate stock prices), the whole “buy and gut” attitude can be quite effective at making money. Dump compliance folks. Dump critical personnel and let them “figure it the fuck out”, etc. I’ve seen businesses run by sociopaths do things like that all the time.

          And hell, let’s look at Musk a bit more. Everyone talks about how much money Twitter is losing. Nobody is talking about how much money Musk is losing (or not losing). First, a full 1/3 of the purchase price are loans in Twitter’s name (!!!). That puts Musk on the hook for only $30B directly… which he paid in equity of other companies (making the purchase tax-sheltered).

          Burned utterly to the ground (the product and the staff), 2023 might be their first profitable year since 2019 (albeit as a MUCH smaller company), and I’m guessing Musk is collecting a fair chunk of change in salary and bonuses. Ironically, I’m guessing he’s still going to amortize the “losses” as he builds his own ROI.

          Yes, a better leader would have created a successful Twitter. And YES, Musk never really wanted to spend that much on it. But I firmly believe he’s taking it to the bank anyway.

          And as horrific as most CEO’s are, a lot of them don’t have this type of behavior in them. Which is the other side of the “reason business owners need good workers”. Not every CEO is willing to embrace “profit-focused mass-layoffs”

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        I was in disbelief when I read that too, but on second pass the quote was the rate should increase by 40-50%. So to 6% from 4% or whatever the current rate is in Australia.

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          Still, wishing to fucking double the unemployment because the proles have the audacity to want to be treated as human beings is fucking disgusting.

          According to this ambulatory pile of turds the workers should approach their employers like Oliver Twist wanting a second helping of gruel - “May I have my wages, sir, please?” The owner class has gotten way too comfortable saying the quiet part out loud.

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            Oh I’m not arguing how insane it is. These people are literally delusional, and the fact they’re constructing these fictions means they’re beyond reach. Hes talking about 250,00 people losing they’re jobs.

            (Also double is 100% increase)

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      If you read the article, he says a 40% increase in unemployment. That would like (for simple math) increasing the rate from 5% to 7%.

      The current unemployment rate in the US is 3.8% and Aus it’s 3.5%. So he wants them at 5.3% and 4.9%, respectively.

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    This the people that work for his company need to learn the definition of Secessio plebis and execute it.

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    Sounds like someone’s previous policies led to a brain drain in their business and now he’s hoping other employers will blindly follow this rhetoric (and shoot themselves in the foot) so he can poach their employees for his company gain.

    I’m fine with billionaires eating each other so we don’t have to.