That headline doesn’t really do the article justice…
even in the article they try to slant it like “poor karen!” and it’s annoying.
Even if you were to assume that she was having some sort of mental break down or something- which is entirely possible- You still have to maintain the physical safety of yourself and the other passengers on the plane first and foremost. though I’m a little surprised they don’t have zip ties or handcuffs on board for unruly passengers… or, uh… .something more than duct tape…
I think they had zip cuffs, they just used the duct tape to keep her in the seat and keep her from spitting. They made the right call, and that lady definitely needs some kind of mental health intervention.
I disagree on the duct tape of the mouth. There needs to be a better way to handle that than making it harder for someone to breath. Where they keep the zip cuffs, they should probably have a spit mask or something.
Yeah I agree. Hell they probably could’ve just tossed an n95 on her face to stop the spitting. Let her scream until she loses steam.
Attempted murder, she can skip and go straight to jail.
Yeah… this woman deserved what she got. You cannot threaten the safety of everyone around you and then later go “oh poor me”. No… FUCK you.
Edit: I must correct myself here. I misread the title of the post and thought she was using the FAA. Nope. They’re suing her to collect on the fines they already levied. Again. Fuuuuuck her. She should get a significant penalty for being a goddam dickhead.
One of the ‘tells’ of mental illness in airplane passenger stories is business class. People experiencing manic episodes tend to take luxury options regardless of means.
It really sucks, and I’m sure red flags were present in the terminal if anyone paid attention.
On the plus side, she was probably hospitalized after the emergency landing, she may not be liable.
Maybe it’s people already miserable from the crowding, the stress, the cavity search, the paperwork, the worry about getting bumped, the lack of space, the lack of freedom to even move, the lack of elbow and knee space, all the wasted ti e of getting there hours ahead of time, will their toothpaste get flagged as a threat, etc …… just trying for a little peace and comfort, willing to pay a little more to get it, but no
I’ve worked an ER servicing a major airport for years, I’ve seen tons of people like this lady come through. The vast majority of berzerk passenger syoroes involve first or business class passengers. That statement comes feom experience. 'Maybe’s are like assholes, everyone has them.
Yeah the lack of criminal charges indicates that it was a manic episode. She probably spent several weeks in a mental health ward. Otherwise she would have been charged for the abuse to the flight attendants and others.
She also likely had a ton of drugs in her system as well as the booze. People undergoing manic episodes will take about anything.
I am not so sure about the FAA fines. The U.S. civil court system is inherently unjust. There are many draconian rules that punish the mentally ill and impoverished.
I’m a bit annoyed at the lack of charges unless she was criminally incompetent. We need to be empathetic to folks with mental illness but not every bipolar person does this shit, ‘batshit’ doesn’t mean ‘incompetent,’ and a disability doesn’t negate consequences.
I imagine a lot of these people with serious MH issues would’ve been killed (by someone) back in the day. Now we just deal with them. But that doesn’t mean we should just ignore what they do and give them a free pass to commit crimes.
And domestic business class at that. Terrible ROI.
Must’ve been some strong jack…
One jack can hit pretty hard if you’re on a shitload of medication
Doesn’t altitude help too?
Regardless there’s no amount of plastered that’ll get me to bite people on a flight.
If she took a Xanax to relax before the flight and then had a Jack, she could be unaware of the integration between benzos and alcohol.
One drink can put you into black out territory on benzos.
Sounds like she had some kind of violent allergic reaction to the drink or had taken some sedatives or other medications that might have caused a bad reaction. Or maybe just before the flight she drank a whole bunch and it just hadn’t hit her yet. I can’t see a single drink doing that, even for someone with a phobia or trauma. Hope that if it was something she had no control over, they’ll at least take that into account. But if it was a mix of sedatives or she really was that drunk, then yeah, totally throw the book at her.
The woman is clearly mentally ill, and instead of sending her off to the loony bin for the help she needs, the reaction is to fuckin SUE her?
How’s that going to help?
It was hidden in the article between all of the annoying ads, but the FAA fined her after the incident, and it looks like she hasn’t paid up, so the lawsuit is to enforce the fine. She’s hasn’t been charged with anything which is probably why the FAA needs to file a civil lawsuit to enforce the fine.
Again, how’s that helping the woman? Poor lass
I agree, it’s not helping her, but the FAA is just a Federal agency so I doubt they can do much else. I’m surprised she wasn’t criminally charged, I’m sure that sort of behavior is against some law. Maybe she just has the white circumstances to avoid legal trouble.
She is suing?!?! She is lucky she isn’t tried for attempted murder for trying to open the airplane door in mid flight!!
