A U.S. Navy submarine has arrived in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in a show of force as a fleet of Russian warships gather for planned military exercises in the Caribbean.

U.S. Southern Command said the USS Helena, a nuclear-powered fast attack submarine, pulled into the waters near the U.S. base in Cuba on Thursday, just a day after a Russian frigate, a nuclear-powered submarine, an oil tanker and a rescue tug crossed into Havana Bay after drills in the Atlantic Ocean.

The stop is part of a “routine port visit” as the submarine travels through Southern Command’s region, it said in a social media post.

Other U.S. ships also have been tracking and monitoring the Russian drills, which Pentagon officials say do not represent a threat to the United States.

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    The stop is part of a “routine port visit” as the submarine travels through Southern Command’s region, it said in a social media post.

    “But please don’t let that stop you from being terrified,” says the news media.

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    This is theater for the Russian and American public. Neither act is actually militarily provocative at all. The US knew when the Russians left port, followed them the whole way to Cuba, and knew there was nothing significant on board. The US waited a day to reveal its nearby attack sub and described its port call as routine, no provocation.

    It’s politically provocative only because Russia should stay the f out of America’s curtilage. It’s a third rate shithole country that gets respect only because it represents a culture that would have no quams about nuking a frew western cities in retaliation for hurt feelings, no quams about sending tens of millions of their kids to go die in war. They are respected the same way you respect a guy walking around in public yelling angrily to himself.

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    That submarine was trailing the Russian ships the whole time, the Russian ships had no idea, and there are more submarines in the waters nearby. The whole purpose was to show the Russian ships that they are sitting ducks.

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      Oh they knew there were subs in the water…they just didn’t know where. The officers at least know we could turn their whole little armada into starter reefs at any time, the fact that we sent a boat scheduled to be scrapped later this year to surface is an extra fuck you flex that has to be intentional. We’re just now phasing out boats from the 80’s and they can’t keep a fleet afloat in a landlocked sea.

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    Any of them arrive in the time honored Russian tradition of:

    A) on fire

    B) pouring smoke from hidden fire

    C) shooting each other

    D) all of the above

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    Russian ships get embarrassingly damaged/sunk by Ukrainian drones/cruise missiles.

    “Hey, Venezuela is fantastic this time of the year!” - Russian Navy

    Maduro will be welcoming them with open arms and appreciates the attention from daddy Putin. Gotta prop his own autocracy somehow.

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    Funny games. The US probably has spies on the Russian ships. Russia may have a spy or two on the US sub. Neither side is remotely surprised by any of the public information on this.

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    Wait, doesn’t the US like hate Cuba and everything?

    Why does it sent submarines there but not fucking furniture and cars? Is it just russia of the west?

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      The US sends Cuba a check to rent Guantanamo bay. Cuba doesn’t cash it.

      I kinda suspect Cuba would prefer to evict the tenant but in this situation the one with the nuclear powered subs gets to set the terms.

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    Why does the US have a base in Guantanamo Bay, anyway? I thought the government of Cuba has protested it for literally half a century?

    I guess it’s for the same reason why the US embargo of Cuba has seen mass condemnation in the UN General Assembly for more than 30 years without result…

    Might makes right?

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      Why does the US have a base in Guantanamo Bay, anyway?

      Because of a 1903 lease agreement with no end date which the post-revolutionary government has not gone back on so far. They protest it, but they have yet to actually say the terms have changed. And they also have a backlog of U.S. money waiting for them when they wish to renegotiate. Don’t underestimate the PR boost having a U.S. naval base on Cuban soil gives to the Cuban government the same way having North Korea and South Korea share a border is good propaganda for both countries.

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        Um are you sure? Because everything I read says they don’t want it but the US won’t leave.

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        I never understood how slavery could stand for so long… But I guess now I do?

        Nevermind that the embargo on Cuba limits the utility of US money.

        Edit: for a similar scenario, look at the conditions for Haitian “independence” from France. France forced Haiti to pay for the lost property (read: slaves) that were freed by independence, costing the Haitian economy something like 20 billion dollars of economic contribution… For daring to free slaves. But oh no my agreements!

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          All Cuba has to do is go to the negotiating table. It is good for their propaganda to not do so and they don’t need Guantanamo for anything.

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            All Haiti has to do was send it’s slaves back to France, I really don’t see the problem.

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              Are you really equating the U.S. sending a yearly uncashed check and keeping a Naval base at the ass end of Cuba with people being enslaved?