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    Funny how none of the solutions to try and curb illegal immigration fall on the business owners who knowingly hire them. Enact jail time for those business owners, and see how quickly the demand dries up. No coincidence that most of these business owners are Republican. They want a permanent underclass of vulnerable workers they can exploit.

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      Funny how none of the solutions to try and curb illegal immigration fall on the business owners who knowingly hire them.

      They do… kinda. This problem peaked under COVID, when you had fruit rotting in fields thanks to our sudden crack down on migrant travel. We saw a similar sudden drop in available farm labor back in 2017, when Trump was ramping up border enforcement against seasonal laborers.

      No coincidence that most of these business owners are Republican.

      That’s more a correlation than causation. Blue collar business owners tend to skew Republican because Republicans cater to the anti-union and anti-poc proclivities of socially conservative white nationalist land barons. When Dems were the party of the apartheid-era South, they dominated this same voting block.

      But the brutal treatment of migrant workers has had a socio-economic impact on Gulf Coast states. Florida’s orange production has dropped from 240M pounds in 2004 to 16M in 2024. Supplies of meat and dairy produce have sagged as ranchers from Nevada to Alabama to Iowa are running out of cheap exploitable laborers. More and more businesses are turning to the carceral state to provide field hands, but even that doesn’t work well in states where people aren’t having kids to lock up and the existing prisoner base is aging past the point of functional field labor.

      Even with the most sadistic and malicious attitude towards your fellow humans, this isn’t a profitable economic policy. It is being driven largely be the outright terror wealthier white land owners have of the young Spanish speaking migrants that dominate their workforce.

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    The White House is finalizing plans for a U.S.-Mexico border clampdown that would shut off asylum requests and automatically deny entrance to migrants once the number of people encountered by American border officials exceeded a new daily threshold, with President Joe Biden expected to sign an executive order as early as Tuesday, according to four people familiar with the matter.

    The president has been weighing additional executive action since the collapse of a bipartisan border bill earlier this year.

    The Biden administration has grown ever more conservative on border issues as the president faces ceaseless criticism from Republicans and there are large numbers of migrants crossing into the U.S. from Mexico who are not easily returned, especially as global displacement grows from war, climate change and more.

    sounds like a right leaning conservative to me

    what about additional executive action on anything else like women’s rights, minimum wage, or anything that could count toward the human good

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      Neoliberals have coopted the term progressive, just like they coopt, whitewash, and scrub away all of our movements.

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        This is a failure of Congress. Biden only has three options. Turn them away at the border, detain, or nothing. Nothing defaults to current immigration policy of busing from border cities to sanctuary cities. Sanctuary cities are at capacity, so the migrants would be homeless upon arrival. What do you propose he do? Turn away, detain, or leave them homeless in overcrowded sanctuary cities?

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        Your “minimum wage” link states multiple times that it is only for federal employees, not for the general population. There are still states where you can get less than 10$/h.

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      Sounds like you don’t know the difference between presidential and congressional power.

      Only Congress can issue immigration reform and increase the budget for sanctuary cities.

      POTUS can only allow entry, detain, or turn away at the border.

      Our sanctuary cities are at capacity.

      What do you want him to do?

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      Serious question: who was a more progressive POTUS since FDR?

      • Maybe LBJ with civil rights, Medicare and Medicaid, but Vietnam.
      • Maybe Jimmothy Carter, but he is commonly regarded as a bit unsuccessful as a president
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        There hasnt been, what with the rightward drift of the Democratic party. The problem is he is not a progressive.

        We’ve done better on two fronts, gay and civil rights.

        Aside from that we are more right leaning by every other metric. Him being 80% less progressive than FDR is not a flex.

        Edit: have fun losing this election. Yall are so out of touch with the people if you think Joe Biden is progressive.

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    Migrants are given one year of free housing to decide if they want to naturalize or move to another nation. Current immigration law leaves hosting up to individual cities, without Federal mandates for participation. Sanctuary cities are at capacity, and are using a turnstile system to allow new migrants in as existing migrants leave.

    POTUS can control detainment or turn away migrants at the border with the power of Executive Order.

    Turning migrants away resulted in increased deaths in Mexico, while detainment is clearly not reasonably hospitable to people in need.

    Honest question- besides the obvious solution of congressional immigration reform giving migrants the right to assisted stay in places other than sanctuary cities, what should Biden do? Turn away, detain, or overcrowd sanctuary cities?

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    I know this seems like needless cruelty towards the most marginalized people in our society, but think about it this way:

    If Biden accomplishes the republican agenda better than Trump, that means moderate republicans will vote Biden. And everyone on the left has to vote Biden anyway. This is why Biden has the highest approval rating ever.

    It’s crazy how the president can get around congress whenever they want to, but only to do bad things.

    Edit: In case anyone didn’t get the sarcasm, moderate republicans will never vote for diet-fascism when they can have the real thing, and carrying out the republican agenda just makes your base stay home, since the only argument that can be made is “Well Trump might do the same thing but worse”. This is both cruel and dumb.

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      I know this seems like needless cruelty towards the most marginalized people in our society but the Democrat candidate acting like a Republican is actually a really good thing.

      Classic Liberals