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Rivacy?
A private vpn is an oxymoron. Since you tunnel all your data to some server.
Google and privacy is an oxymoron.
“Google private vpn” would be a mega oxymoron.
The most oxymoronic
It’s an oximoron in every company which make money with surveillance advertisings. Google undoubtedly has apps and services with a very high quality and often without real competition or alternative, but this has a very high cost and if the main income, apart from some paid services, is based on selling user data to advertising companies, it is logical and almost inevitable that it becomes a data moloch that uses any dirty trick to obtain these. It is an axiom: power corrupts
Mozilla now regrets having signed with Google as a sponsor and is now trying to get out of this contract, especially since Google plans to introduce this WEI DRM, but Alphabet is not doing this the easy way and Mozilla depends a lot on this money to maintain its infrastructure. We will see what comes of this, but it is really urgent that Mozilla changes its business model, it would be very desirable and necessary.
Moral: If you want to maintain your independence and freedom, do not accept outside investors
It was an Interesting read, thanks
yeah, an oxy-unbelievably-dense-motherfucker
Sir, we reached critical mass, It’s turning into a black hole !
tunnel all your data through a very special GOOGLE server.
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Makes me cringe thinking of all those years I was using Google DNS, back when I believed that “don’t be evil” shit
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What do you use now?
NextDNS, been using it for a year and a half now. I like the ease of use and privacy/ad block filter options.
Oh sure. Use the company known for mining the fuck out of personal data to protect my personal data from being mined.
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Lmao “Cops sell drugs now” :D
This is funny. Please pipe ALL of your online activities through us. We won’t spy, gather, sell, or snitch.
Get fucked.
The point of a VPN is to protect your privacy. Google is the last company I would trust to do that.
A VPN doesn’t help that much anyways for privacy.
At least Google VPN is honest about who tracks you with this VPN, LOL
Does it really say that?
OP added as a joke
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Idk… maybe not great for privacy but I just test it (I have been a subscriber for a while and didn’t know there was a VPN) and it bypasses my country blocks of certain piracy pages so so far it’s kind of usefull.
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Damn, people here really misunderstand the threat surface. The Google VPN is just fine for staying safe from things like rogue wifi hotspots and even Stingray devices to some extent. It’s also makes it much harder for your ISP to data mine your web activity. Obviously if you have an Android device using Google services, Google already has access to pretty much any information they might get from the VPN service. If you are de-Googled, then obviously you’d never use this.
For the vast majority of people, privacy should be what happens outside of your curated public image. Everyone has a public image. If you try to be completely dark all the time, chances are you will slip up and just end up in an even worse position because you don’t understand when or how you’ve lost control. This is counterintelligence 101. Real first day stuff, but so many of the ‘pop-security’ influencers on the internet struggle with it, because they don’t have any practical CI training. However, having a public image doesn’t mean you cede all control to every observer. Obviously there are many choices for VPNs, but for everyday use, this VPN Google bundles with various other products is generally high quality.
There are quite simply better services out there, why defend a mega corp? You said it yourself they will sell every fucking byte of data, VPNs aren’t hard to figure out especially these days with ezpz UX.
Truly fuck this service, it’s not like it’s the only one with low barrier of entry, it provides some security but by nature dissolves privacy. You also can’t shift your location at all so it’s even less useful
Mullvad for example is easy as FUCK is super cheap (google one vpn is essentially the same pricing model for basic, $2 diff, the difference being mullvad doesn’t limit your data like google one does!!!) and performative, as well as anonymous, no account or bullshit, plays nice with their simple-as-fuck default user apps or with others like WireGuard for more config
WHY use an inferior service that fucks you? Especially as it limits amount of data whereas mulvad doesn’t.
It’s worse in every fucking way
An easy barrier of entry isn’t always the issue at hand. I think what the user is saying, hate Google or not, you are at the very least safe to some degree. A lot of people don’t realize that VPNS are just ways of manipulating where your data goes and who sees it and that VPNs can be abused as services even if they aren’t Google.
Those same services can sell your data just the same as Google. Let’s not forget that the “mega corp” everyone loves to hate is the reason you have Android competing against iOS which is part of another mega corp. People on Lemmy should get the fuck off their high horses.
They want to make sure noone else can steal your data…
No fucking way will Google EVER be my VPN.
There are way worst VPNs out there, they are not only a scam and spyware, like Google- or Opera"VPNs", they also dangerous. eg Hola VPN 🥶 Apart of Windscribe, Proton and maybe Calyx, there isn’t any trustworth free VPN out there, and all free, even if they are trustworth are limited, in use of monthly amount of data (10 Gb in Windscribe), or/and in the amount of servers. If a free VPN offers a lot of servers AND unlimited amount of data, by definition is a scam or worse. Servers cost money and free VPN only can offer free dedicated public servers and there a not so much, only a few in some countries.
That would be like hiring professional bank robbers with a long string of hits to provide security for a bank.
Not trusting big Goog at all here, but some of the best hackers have been known to get hired by big corporations or the government, seeing as how they’re the best at what to look for.
Bruh, you have a cybersec violation on your rep sheet and you couldn’t get a job sweeping gravel off a cybersec company’s parking lot.
“Cool cyber hacker gets hired by glowie boys” happens only in movies. The risk just isn’t worth it. In the very rare cases where the skill is worth the risk, which it never is, rest assured there is a handler team authorised to break both hands, the second the hacker goes off script.
In this situation Google controls the whole setup and is not under any oversight from the customers (i.e. those using the VPN).
In that example of yours they would be a still active hacker whose prime source of income is hacking and who makes way more money from hacking than from said gigs for the “big corporations or the government” and who isn’t at all being directly whatched by their employers to make sure they don’t abuse the situation.
Would you give a know active black hat a gig doing penetration testing, which they can do from their own place using whatever they want with no oversight and were the possible profit they can make selling what they find in your systems vastly outweighs what you’re paying them?
Aren’t some of the more profitable and secure services created by those trained to break security?
Well, Google continues to have the profit motivation of selling people’s personal data, whilst the way black hats turn into white hats is that they can make more money (or at least safer) by helping to improve security rather than break it.
You don’t really hire an active black hat to do penetration testing into your system when they can make way more money selling what they’ll find in your system than what you’re paying them for said penetration testing.
The problem is that Google’s core business is still built-around using (and selling, though indirectly) people’s private data.
if we’re being honest this is probably just as good for privacy as most popular vpns (sooo not much and over advertising how much they protect you)
they did release a white paper on how the service works if you trust it’s what they’re actually doing. https://one.google.com/about/vpn/howitworks
I keep literally all private data in Google. When I opened, refinanced, paid off my mortgage with Chase, I was inundated with calls and mail because my bank sold my data, account balances and contact info. Somewhere within Google is all of my private email and AFAICT, they haven’t ever sold any data from it.
Google does some bad stuff. They sell access to you, not your data.
They’ve had one for a while as far as I know but it didn’t work for me outside of the US so it was useless for me since I used to be safer abroad.
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Yeah, as a heavy Google user I would use this if I had a reason to use a VPN. Google is scraping all my information anyway from my Android phone, my Google searches, and G-Mail, Maps, etc. They’re not going to gain any additional information about me from usage of a VPN.
This is probably true for anyone using Google One.
If I had an iPhone or used DuckDuckGo or Firefox was taking other security measures, it’s probably pointless, but I’ve just gone all in on only Google have any of my data.
And I guess they won’t put any recaptcha so, there’s that…
