Looks like Arrowhead might be moving forward with PSN despite “internal discussions”.

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        I expect media companies to be greedy. What feels absurd is when they act out of blind, unmonetized efforts of control that seem to hurt their bottom line - like forcing employees to commute instead of work from home.

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    Holy F, what a smooth brain move. They had an IP with incredible goodwill that would have been printing money forever (think about DLCs and merchandise, maybe even a TV series), and they chose to destroy all that to increase the active PSN account numbers by <1%. Which doesn’t even have a direct financial benefit, just something they can peacock in their quarterly reports, trying to boost the stock price.

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      Adding all those helldiver’s players into the “Sony account to PlayStation now subscription service” sales funnel is the financial goal here, likely along with selling any data they collect about you to any bidder.

      This does make Sony money, but it likely doesn’t make them more than an indie becoming the 7th most successful game this year, but here we are anyway.

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        I understand that sales funnel logic, but I would still argue its actual financial impact would be marginal. It’s wishful thinking from Sony that just because you got your claws into a PC player by making a PSN account, they will start buying PS stuff. The data monetization is much more direct, but still, not much additional money to be made by a few (tens of / hundred) thousand extra registrations (especially as they had to be aware of refunds happening). These are definitely valid upsides, but I don’t think they are big/certain enough to make this call, and compensate for the negative consequences.

        My gut / experience tells me this is mostly about the PSN account numbers, and some execs getting a gazillion dollar bonus if they can push it above certain target by the next report, even if they damage the revenues in the process.

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    To be fair there is a lot of speculation that the delisting is actually entirely from steam’s side not sony or arrowhead. Nothing is confirmed of course but the thought is that steam is throwing the kill switch on selling in these countries right now because obviously the publisher hadn’t thought this out and just straight up doesn’t have a plan for it. Valve may be doing this to put extra pressure on the situation drying up sales a little prematurely and more importantly to protect Valve from legal repercussions. Again this is entirely speculation but it makes a lot of sense, Arrowhead and Sony have been pretty quiet.

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      Same old shit with everything. A company makes a move that users don’t like. The company just ignores all the flak they are getting online. The uproar calms down and then things continue.

      We’re seeing this more and more. Windows with ads, Amazon adding ads to their prime video account holders. Spotify moving lyrics to their premium subscription. The past couple of years are shit and companies continue to do whatever the fuck they want.

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      The cm’s have literally said it’s Sony. Why would there be speculation that it’s steam?

      Edit: I misunderstood. I meant that the whole initiative was from Sony. Kroxx was talking about the delisting in specific. I don’t have any info on that.

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        Yeah I’ve not seen them address the delisting anywhere yet, if you have a link or anything please add it I’m trying to stay as updated as possible on this.

        Edit: I also edited the first line, I had written “this” originally and I replaced it with “the delisting” because I can see how it was a little ambiguous before.

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          To be fair there is a lot of speculation that this is actually entirely from steam’s side not sony or arrowhead.

          Oh, that the delisting is Steam side? I thought you meant in general. My bad. I’ll edit that.

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          I misunderstood. I meant that the whole initiative was from Sony. Kroxx was talking about the delisting in specific. I don’t have any info on that.

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          A community manager in HD2 Discord has said that the mandatory account linking is a Sony directive.

          It appears that Steam had delisted the game in countries that PSN is not available in.

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    They should start working on a helldivers 3 and self publish it, barely change anything. (assuming they own the ip ofc)

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    Wonder how we should interpret the country “XD” being on the list. As far as I can tell its never been used for any real country.

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    I didn’t buy it before because it had kernel level anticheat which is incredibly invasive and unnecessary for a PVE game, and now I’m really glad I didn’t buy it.

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    The more confusing thing is a change on February 8th, where they add a Russian edition to their game if I interpret it correctly.