It’s clear that companies are currently unable to make chatbots like ChatGPT comply with EU law, when processing data about individuals. If a system cannot produce accurate and transparent results, it cannot be used to generate data about individuals. The technology has to follow the legal requirements, not the other way around.

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    I have an unusual name. There is one other person in the U.S. with my name and there is something even more unique about them. I typed “Tell me about [MY NAME].” into ChatGPT, including my middle initial just to be sure and got this back:

    [MY NAME] is an American entrepreneur, author, and business consultant known for his expertise in marketing and business strategy. He has authored several books on entrepreneurship, marketing, and personal development, aiming to empower individuals to achieve success in their ventures.

    [MY NAME] is recognized for his practical approach to business growth and his ability to simplify complex concepts into actionable steps. He often emphasizes the importance of innovation, adaptability, and effective communication in building successful businesses.

    While specific details may vary depending on recent developments, [MY NAME]'s work typically revolves around helping entrepreneurs and small business owners navigate the challenges of starting and growing their ventures in today’s competitive market landscape. His insights and strategies often focus on leveraging technology, understanding consumer behavior, and developing effective branding and marketing strategies.

    [MY NAME] may also engage in public speaking engagements, workshops, and consulting services to share his knowledge and insights with a wider audience. His work likely continues to inspire and empower aspiring entrepreneurs and business professionals to pursue their goals with confidence and determination.

    Not one bit of that is true either for me or for the other person who shares my first and last name but not my middle initial.

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      This is the problem with training LLMs on Reddit. It doesn’t know how to say “I don’t know”. So, like Redditors…. It just makes shit up.

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        It’s not that it doesn’t know how to say “I don’t know”. It simply doesn’t know. Period. LLMs are not sentient and they don’t think about the questions they are asked, let alone if the answer they provide is correct. They string words together. That’s all. That we’ve gotten those strings of words to strongly resemble coherent text is very impressive, but it doesn’t make the program intelligent in the slightest.

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          What amazes me is that people don’t find it significant that they don’t ask questions. I would argue there is no such thing as intelligence without curiosity.

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            What do you even mean with that? Pi asks questions and certainly feels curious and engaged in conversation. Even chatgpt will ask for more information if it doesn’t find the requested information in, for example, an Excel spreadsheet you upload.

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        They’re trained on far more than reddit. But it’s not a training data problem, it’s a wrong tool problem. It’s called “generative AI” for a reason: it generates text, same way a Markov chain does. You want it to tell you something, it’ll tell you. You want factual data, don’t ask a storyteller.

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        What I think is especially funny though is that both the other person and myself have done enough (not horrific) things in our lives to have things like mainstream media mentions but it still got it entirely wrong.

        I’m not famous but it definitely should have known who I am.

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        But we know everything, why would we say otherwise when we are always the smartest person in every room we’ve ever walked into? What even is this foreign tongue ‘I don’t know’. I’ve never heard of it before. Is it latin?

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        If an LLM had to say “I don’t know” when it doesn’t know, that’s all it would be allowed to say! They literally don’t know anything. They don’t even know what knowing means. They are complex (and impressive, admittedly) text generators.

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      I congratulate you, and think you should be proud of overcoming your inherent invertebrate self, to not only be a prolific poster on Lemmy, but also to be an entrepreneur, author, and business consultant.

      Truly you are one in a squidillion.

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        Thank you. You can take my new business course for only $399.95 and a bucket full of any small species of saltwater fish you can find.

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        In the sense that it would bring them down if they found out that I couldn’t spend money on their business because I’m not working? I suppose.

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    This stuff is literally a bullshit(1) machine. How can you fix it without making something else entirely?

    (1)

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      When they hallucinate, they don’t do it consistently, so one option is running the same query through multiple times (with different “expert” base prompts), or through different LLMs and then rejecting it as “I don’t know” if there’s too much disagreement between them. The Q* approach is similar, but baked in. This should dramatically reduce hallucinations.

      Edit: added bit about different experts

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    I read the article and I read the comments. Is there something I am missing here? I thought they were discussing OpenAI gathering data on it’s users (those using ChatGPT) and not giving that data back. Based on the comments, the article is upset that OpenAI can give back data that ChatGPT was trained on.

    Does the second case fall under GDPR? Could not OpenAI just claim that they removed any information that makes it identifiable and call is a day?