Vultr posted their response to the concerns here - https://www.vultr.com/news/a-note-about-vultrs-terms-of-service/
The portion of the ToS that people were worried about had been in place for years and had nothing to do with server intellectual property. They are removing it to avoid future confusion.
I don’t disagree that it was poorly worded, but the amount of people jumping to the worst possible conclusions on this is concerning. What happened to Hanlon’s Razor?
What happened to Hanlon’s Razor?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora
we’re a little traumatised.
Well, they kind of gave it away with the name…
Glad to see I wasn’t the only one thinking this.
Backpedaling in 3…2… oh there it is
https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/28/vultr_content_controversy/
So it sounds like Vultr isn’t doing anything nefarious at all.
Someone apparently actually read the terms and services for the first time a few days ago and misunderstood them since they were saying it was in reference to the Vuktr website not your servers.
And either way, they removed the offended lang to clear it up.
This seems like a knee jerk mob reaction more than anything.
There is no evidence that they’ve done anything with anyone’s data.
On top of all this you can’t access your account without accepting new ToS. After login web page show full window modal form with one button “confirm” so you can’t reject it. I’m sure most of HN readers can handle this minor obstacle ;-) After I asked vultr for access to my account without acceptance of new ToS they wrote me back legal slur suggesting I may host questionable content:
(…) you take the necessary measures to protect minors from accessing harmful material on your website.
(…) requirements apply to you, including removing any infringing content and safeguarding minors.
and threaten me with “law enforcement agencies”
Bravo, bravo…
Well. I have a few servers there. Suppose I will move them. Nothing that isn’t easy to move. I can probably find something cheaper on LEB. I just like vultr UI. A lot of the cheaper places make it feel like the early 00s.
Holy Brand Damage Batman !
In my experience Vultr is not really selfhosting friendly, I had some credit there, but about to move
Yes, writing ToS for a Cloud provider is hard. Someone mixed a few documents and this mess happened, get over it, Vultr doesn’t have the size nor the resources to go over your VPS storage looking for interesting data.
Did you really just try to excuse and downplay a company claiming full ownership and rights over all user’s data?
This is the first time there’s an issue with Vultr and their explanation is perfectly reasonable. If this was happening with Oracle or Amazon I would be worried indeed but not with this smaller company that most likely just fucked up without any malicious intent.
