The adversarial relationship between Washington and Moscow prevented U.S. officials from sharing any information about the plot beyond what was necessary, out of fear Russian authorities might learn their intelligence sources or methods.

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    We told them there was an increased risk. They don’t need to know how we know or the specifics. They chose not to listen or act, and completely dismissed our advice as nonsense. This is on them.

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      Pfffft… Russia already knew it was Ukraine long before USA received intel about ISIS preparing the attack. /s

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      “We” “Our”

      you are not the American government. They are your oppressors. They are not on your side.

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        There’s a purposeful twist of language by you.

        The way they used “we” simply implies they are a citizen of the US, not that they are an agent of the US gov security apparatus.

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    First it was that they did it and now it’s that Americans didn’t do enough to stop it lol.

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      You misunderstand how Russian propaganda works.

      It’s this:

      The firehose of falsehood is a propaganda technique in which a large number of messages are broadcast rapidly, repetitively, and continuously over multiple channels (such as news and social media) without regard for truth or consistency. An outgrowth of Soviet propaganda techniques, the firehose of falsehood is a contemporary model for Russian propaganda under Russian President Vladimir Putin.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

      The Jewish Nazis in Ukraine funded ISIS! The CIA funded the ISIS attack! The CIA didn’t warn us! The CIA didn’t warn us in time! This was done by ISIS! This was done by Ukraine! The attackers were fleeing to Ukraine! They were fleeing to Belarus but we stopped them! We are war with NATO! We are not at war with NATO. If NATO gives Ukraine F16s Russia will be at war with NATO. If NATO gives Ukraine F16s, Russia will shoot them down, but not be at war with NATO!

      Etc. etc. etc.

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    This is why most classified information is withheld and Russia isn’t exactly an ally right now.

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        NATO was formed in 1949, already after 2nd world war. Russia has been hated for way longer, so much so that countries neighboring it saw “allying”* with nazis preferable over having Russia take over them

        *some didn’t have much option, allying or being taken over with much more violence

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            I’m including USSR in the term Russia because obvious reasons, it was still the same country with different name, and USSR annexed bunch of countries around it.

            Those countries that “broke from USSR” were independent nations before.

            No one has instilled as much hate against communism as the few dictatorships calling themselves communist have. Not even USA, where ‘communist’ has been a slur for the past hundred years

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                I should have probably said they claim to be socialist, but USSR and North Korea was first ones in my mind.

                I like your question, it’s only purpose is to try catch me on some small technicality, or get a chance to bombard 17 links to tankie wiki with alternative facts about how Stalin was actually a great democratically selected leader

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            The Red Scare is a more like side goal because communism threatens oligarchies. The Soviet Union also had its hand in persecuting communists.

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    I stay with “fear of exposing intelligence”. There is no need to fear something that does not exist