• pudcollar@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    If a billionaire is in actual trouble, he’s in China. US would have bailed out Evergrande.

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      1 year ago

      I have pretty severe concerns about how the Chinese government operates, but this is one thing they do right.

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        1 year ago

        I have pretty severe concerns about the way the American government operates.

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          Yeah, well, I like having rights so we’ll just have to accept that everything can’t be perfect.

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            You know the majority of the world has the same if not more rights than you. Take Canada, I can go to any hospital without worrying if I will become bankrupt. I can own the majority of firearms this world has to offer and if I get pulled over, the police can not legally rob me because the money I have on hand isn’t drug money unless there is difinitive proof that it is.

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                1 year ago

                What the previous comment to yours was criticising the US govt. I didn’t move any goal posts was just pointing out that your freedoms is to do what your are told. Not much difference from China tbh

                That’s the hypocrisy that we’re pointing out

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            11 months ago

            Typical American Exceptionalism take. Hey buddy, there are hundred of free countries that provide their citizens with inalienable rights.

            How about you take your “America can do anything” attitude and apply it to GOOD instead of killing others?

            American CAN do anything it wants, like helping its citizens.

            It chooses not to.

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    1 year ago

    Gee it sure sucks that Evergrande collapsed. What a horrible sign for the Chinese economy!

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    1 year ago

    Man all these bad news about Chinese property market, hopefully there isn’t a collapse there as predicted.

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        I mean, that sector is also a huge employer with lots of construction companies and jobs tied directly and indirectly to it. If the construction section comes down, that’s going to cause a lot of hardship on a lot of people. So even with cheaper houses (for a while, if the construction sector doesn’t improve you’ll get high prices again later) I’d say it’s a huge net negative for people and their lives.

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            I don’t know if you are using the word differently but property market includes stuff like construction companies, development companies, architect companies, material suppliers, engineering companies and stuff like that. Building a house seems fairly productive, for example.

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              Building a house is productive.

              Taking payment in advance before building a house and buying a yaught, then having no budget to build the house so you take payment for another house and use that money to build the first house

              is not productive.

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                Unfortunately all of that is included in that sector. So while that is shit and wouldn’t mind them being punished, there’s also all the other jobs and economic considerations. A lot of workers are working directly or indirectly within that sector.

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                  No all of that is included because Evergrande is a ponzi scheme. They can undercut their competition by selling houses for such a low price that they can’t build them.

                  So they run on people pouring more and more money in and putting more and more projects on hold. That’s a ponzi scheme.

                  Building houses doesn’t have to be a ponzi scheme. Evergrande is.