Can confirm. I’m 38 and I cringe every time I see a remake of some 20 or 30 year old movie or show. Come up with something original instead of going for the low hanging fruit. Also, use less CGI and more practical effects.
Too much bad cgi now days.
Look at top gun 2. I wasn’t excited at all to see it. I left the theater pumped and saw it four more times.
Top Gun 2 was full of CGI…
True, what people want is seamless VFX.
I watched Argylle and everything looks so fake. Most of it was shot on a green screen. Half the charm of an extravagant spy movie is taking us to exotic locales.
Lots of practical effects as well. The flying was mostly practical. The used cgi to make the f18 look like a one seater but the flying was legit
The flying was legit when looking at cockpits, but the planes were all fake. They actually created plane models that don’t exist in real life. You can bet that unless it was a scene with several humans on screen talking face to face, about 90% of what you were seeing was made by a computer animator.
It was a damn good movie.
I thought I was going to hate it. It seemed like a cash grab. I’m not a huge fan on Tom cruise. It was just a damn good movie. Movies have forgot they’re supposed to be entertaining. It was entertaining.
As a counterpoint to this I think the “why” of the remake is really important. Id actually like to see them do more movies that could benefit from an “update” moreso than a remake… like Major League, I loved those movies as a kid. Show me some of my favorite contemporary actors having fun with a modern script on something that I enjoyed back in the day and yeah Ill watch that.
The white men cant jump remake wasnt a GREAT movie, but its not like they were remaking an absolute classic that was perfect in every way and wanted to cash in with merch, tie-ins and video games so it didnt feel like a shameless cash grab. I had fond memories of the original and I like Jack Harlow so yeah I liked it, wouldnt rave about it but its fun.
I feel like most remakes are pretty bad, if I watched the original and loved it, why would I want to watch a newer, slightly different version?
I’m a dude and I love the original Charmed and Mean Girls but didn’t even bother to watch the remakes because I knew they weren’t going to be as good as the originals.
I like watching remakes because I’ts not about if it meets up on quality or enjoyment, its the comparison between the two. Yeah usually they fall short.
Take White men cant jump for example, Ioved the original but only liked the remake took a couple of viewings to figure it out. They glossed over the basketball too much, which blurred out the movies grounding theme which I think is “We can come together over common passions” and they didnt set up a big enough conflict between Walls and Harlow. They also missed out on a chance to have some great conversations about modern racial attitudes, which was one of the things that made the first one that bit better. “You cant hear Jimmy” and the discussion about “A black man would rather look good first and win second” people in that movie had some racial opinions and they talked about them, yet nobody screamed racism.
But it was well shot, funny, entertaining, good performances, good callbacks, likeable characters. If it was a standalone it wouldnt be a better movie, but it wouldnt be worse either.
Here’s what people want… Good movies and good television. Yeah, originality is great, but remakes can be good too.
I liked the remake of Infernal Affairs (The Departed), Scarface, Cape Fear, Ocean’s 11, The Fly, King Kong (Peter Jackson), True Grit, Judge Dread, and The Wizard of Oz (1939) was also a remake. The Fall Guy looks good too.
For TV, there’s Battlestar Galactica, Westworld, Cobra Kai, Sabrina, and Wednesday, though different, could fit in there as it’s still based on another property.
What people don’t want are obvious cash grabs.
Honestly sometimes we’re fine with cash grabs too, aslong as they don’t require much attention. For example John Wick is a really fun and easy series of films to watch but you don’t need to have 100% attention throughout
Hell some of those remarks are better than the original IMO the True Grit remake is infinitely better than the original one, mind you I dont like John Wayne movies and this aint even me being political I fucken love Clint Eastwood movies.
I think it’s funny you use Clint Eastwood to prove you’re not politically motivated because he talked to a chair to entertain conservatives while John Wayne on the other hand was a Nazi. Like I get it, you can absolutely disagree with both it’s just funny the difference in egregiousness.
I like old Clint Eastwood movies in spite of my politics, my dislike of John Wayne movies is further amplified by my politics and the fact he was just an awful person overall. Seriously Waynes death was fucken poetry, getting cancer because he wanted to be Genghis Khan and promptly getting irradiated is fucken poetic.
But yeah both Wayne and Eastwood are/were bastards, If memory serves me right they both said some pretty egregious shit about Sacheen Littlefeather at the 45th academy awards.
One went out to campaign for nazis, the other was one. I frankly don’t see a difference.
The second Judge Dread was really good. I wish they would make a sequel.
:raises hand: Gen-X too please!
I am interested in that new Roadhouse NGL.
Yes, Gen-X too. Unless it’s a re-telling of The Three Amigos in the style of Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian with Glanton and the Judge replacing El Guapo and his German pilot lackey. In which case, I’m here for that.
For us I feel like it’s worse, since it taints the memories of the original.
What the fuck is this article smokin? Is it AI?
…of these young kids,
Ok goddamnit, enough with the millennials r kids n shit. Im 45. Millennials are adults. Adults! Kiss my pucker, fucker
True, although you are Gen X if you’re 45 years old. You’re 2-3 years older than the oldest millennial.
I’m.a 33 y/o millennial with a mortgage and shitty movies I don’t want to watch. Hopefully they’ll stop calling millennials “kids” by the time I retire.
Maybe it’ll just morph into a pejorative like Boomer did. Like standing in for kid? Ha! More likely it’s gonna be like how they did the Xers and simply not speak of us at all
Right? We’re middle aged, some grandparents.
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Ok goddamnit, enough with the millennials r kids n shit. Im 45. Millennials are adults. Adults! Kiss my pucker, fucker
I think they meant in emotional terms.
So Boomer actually means that they have the mental state of Lead Poisoning?
Aaand the Boomer came out swinging! Bold move cotton! Listen big guy, i know it ain’t your fault, it’s all the lead in the air. Just try not to forget who he is when i send my kid over to mow your lawn next time, k?
Ok boomer
Are remakes ever for a new generation? Aren’t they just for the original people who liked it, and they hope a new gen will like the new content, but they never do?
They are for new markets, at the moment this means China
Yes, because it’s well known that once a movie or series is released, it’s promptly destroyed to make sure that no trace of it subsists. Which is why remakes are inevitable.
This is the entire concept behind the
NintendoDisney vaultHey, that’s Warner new secret business strategy, don’t go around leaking it!
Absolutely not. This is how we got to “my James Bond is better than your James Bond”-style of thinking.
Every new gen wants their own thing. Every new gen thinks the last gen was lame. Business takes old gen shit and add new gen actor/actress/good looking person, adds old gen shit and then resells the new gen its own version. This is why every show is full of pretty people and nothing new.
Most of the characters in Severance are not pretty, and it was very original IMO.
There’s this concept called Hollywood ugly. Even people who are not pretty or considered to play ugly characters on film are still above average in terms of looks compared to the whole of the population. Most actors in Severance while might not be considered movie star out of everyone’s league gorgeous, are still pretty and attractive people. It’s much more about how they are presented in camera that makes them seem more everyday like.
Yeah I guess John Turturro is a good example of Hollywood ugly :)
Severance is excellent and exceptional. It’s also AppleTV+, where it’s more likely than not you’ll see actors that resemble people in real life (and when it’s not, it’s Ghosted and shit). And they generally don’t do remakes.
If anything, they’re the exception and not the rule.
Are remakes ever for a new generataion?
“Modern audience”
Seems like one of those things everyone would say in the abstract, particularly on a survey. Then when the studios go for safe projects and the thing they remake is among someone’s personal favorites they’ll watch it anyway, validating the strategy.
Exactly this. You see the same in gaming. The amount of remasters of once original successful games is increasing by the year.
The amount of remasters of once original successful games is increasing by the year.
There’s also a pretty substantial incentive there in terms of new market access, by releasing old games on new consoles, and less work overall. A better comparison in that regard, for most movies, would probably be re-releases, with original film remastering and DVD extras.
I will never watch the Point Break or Red Dawn remakes. No way! Also, how dare they!
And adaptions that adhere to pre existing lore… Witcher, Halo I am looking at you
Oh come now. If Halo had to stick to pre-existing lore we wouldn’t have seen Master Chief’s ass.
When you make 9 hours of video, but the only redeeming portion of it is 3 seconds of ass.
I wonder how many times in my life I will get to see Batman’s parents die? Or James bond play poker? Or star wars get ruined?
I don’t see anything wrong with serialized media, the problem is people are not also taking chances on more novel stuff. Even when it gets made. “Moon” came out fifteen years ago and I thought it was really good but damn near every time I bring it up I’m the only one who even heard about it. “Knives Out” was great, “Glass Onion” was alright, we get weird stuff like “Pig” and “The Menu” and that’s all stuff with big names and decent budgets. There’s tons of smaller stuff coming out too but if you don’t pay attention or seek out film festivals, or know someone who does, it might as well not exist.
Are theaters just too expensive for casual audiences? Is the opportunity cost too high? Or is it just a marketing failure?
I love moon. It is a shame it is not better known, great movie.
Yes theatres are too much for a cash strapped general population. But we also see streaming get ruined all the time, the last time netflix had a show I liked (I am not OK with this) they cut it after one season, and for what? We have a situation where movies/shows should be easier then ever to make but we instead have next to nothing worthwhile out and advertised.
I also hate when they remake movies that don’t work with today’s production companies. Remember what they did to Old Boy? Why did they even try? And why did they think removing the big shocker (the whole point of the movie) would work?
My girlfriend and I still use yes chef because of the menu. Even in non cooking situations
Same for Gen X. No one wants remakes. Why the fuck do people watch them?
I want remakes of badly made movies. I don’t want remakes of classics that were already good. Re-screenings, perhaps. How cool would it be if your local decaplex ran Ben Hur for a weekend or something?
I’m in Atlanta and we have a few theaters here that will play old stuff sometimes. I saw the directors cut of Brazil recently at one.
Boomers. Same reason why they’d much rather go to concerts for halfway decent cover bands of their childhood favorites than put any effort into discovering new music
Matt Damon explains how the lack of DVD sales changed what movie studios will greenlight
Maybe I’m dumb but I just fail to see how moving to a streaming platform would actively prevent you from making original content. Like I get people aren’t buying DVDs but they rent stuff digitally and pay to watch your stuff online. Maybe the distribution of money is way different? But I would imagine if anything it would be easier and cheaper to get stuff out in front of people’s faces now. Like way easier. Instead of depending only on a theatrical release or possibly a made for tv movie or straight to dvd movie, you just get it on a streaming platform or hell even just YouTube or some random website. You can spend as much or as little as you want on it. What am I missing?
If anything I think they’re just greenlighting all these remakes because it’s easy money. People complain but they still pay out the ass to see it. If they didn’t make money they wouldn’t make them, plain and simple. I could be totally wrong here but that’s just what it feels like
Streaming doesn’t pay out per view, they just pay a lump sum up front to licence. If you’re not already a hit, that lump sum will be low, and if millions of people stream the film it makes the studio exactly zero dollars.
Not even remakes… Remakes of remakes made 3 years before The latest remake
Spiderman: Recursion
Uh, most reasonable people want this. Extended Universes are so early 2010’s.
Say it to a survey but then when the movies come out the dollars come in for the remakes and reboots
Kind of like 90% of Americans disapproving of Congress but then votes for their incumbents.
And genX are tired of the regurgitation
In terms of movies the worst offenders are remakes of foreign films for the US audience. Like the Oldboy remake was completely unnecessary and it changed key parts of the story. Funny Games was just a shot-for-shot remake of the original one!
Personally I’m finding the video game remakes even more egregious than the movie/tv remakes. I think it’s a side effect of the modern day development costs being so out of control but as long as people keep doube - and triple - dipping on games this is going to continue.
“The Girl with the dragon tattoo” and “a man called Otto” are both good remakes.
So I don’t agree at all. A remake isn’t bad in itself.
What was that saying - " Exceptions prove the rule"?
No it was something about confirmation bias I believe.
I’ll concede that the FIncher movie was a good remake that deviated enough from the source material to be worthwhile. However I guess we’ll need to agree to disagree because from my point of view the good foreign remakes are greatly outnumbered by a lot of lazy ones like the Let The Right One In remake, which would be another one which I felt was creatively bankrupt.
Surely Holywood could spend their resources on producing novel content as opposed to spoonfeeding people who dislike substitles.
