Yuzu is dead
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Yuzu - the popular Nintendo Switch Emulator (and recently Citra - a 3ds emulator developed by the same team as Yuzu) is dead. Nintendo has settled with Yuzu ...

A sad day for emulation and open source advocates, and a reminder that Nintendo can and will destroy you if they see fit.

Hopefully their works will live in the saved repos just as ReVanced was able to live on after YouTube shut the original project down.

    • arc@lemm.ee
      143·
      9 months ago

      Yuzu gave them the opening to sue though. If they had been more circumspect - “Oh this is to develop homebrew / indie games nudge nudge” then maybe Nintendo wouldn’t have unleashed the lawyers or done so ineffectively. After all it wouldn’t be Yuzu’s fault if some wicked website corrupted their pure intentions by releasing device keys or patches that allowed their emulator run commercial games. But they were more blatant than that.

      Also from an empathic perspective, of course Nintendo were going to sue. Yuzu should have known they would since that’s what console platforms do when something interferes with their profits. Yuzu is doubly bad since it interferes with hardware sales and game sales unlike custom firmware / cartridges which only affect game sales.

      Of course the genie is already out of the bottle. Yuzu’s source code and binaries were on github for anyone to clone / fork. All the games are out in the wild. The piracy will carry on. I think it’s fair to say the NSP is effectively dead as a platform at this point. If a NSP2 turns up this year, as rumored, then I expect it will have revised anti-piracy measures and potentially a heavy online service aspect to go with it - it’s far easier to detect pirates and wield the banhammer when a device is online.

      • Zanshi@lemmy.world
        417·
        9 months ago

        I don’t really get people saying fuck Nintendo. It’s their IP, and Yuzu team was pretty blatant it’s made for piracy, boasting how good it works with TotK. It’s not what you do when you try to stay under the radar. Regarding Switch 2, this exactly what happened with DS and 3DS. DS was so easy to pirate Nintendo went ultra ham on piracy protection measures in 3DS, which took a good while to break. I’d expect the same with Switch 2.Which will probably make things annoying for people who will buy the system

        • abraxas@sh.itjust.works
          9·
          9 months ago

          I don’t really get people saying fuck Nintendo. It’s their IP, and Yuzu team was pretty blatant it’s made for piracy

          Because a significant percent of people have always seen IP as theft and IP lawsuits as shakedowns. Real Talk - IP was codified to solve one problem (it wasn’t casual piracy, it was inventors being ripped off by evil businesses), and it made that problem worse. We should’ve just thrown it out from there and tried something else, but then the evil businesses convinced the soccer moms that their little Billy listening to Metallica on Napster was everything wrong with this country.

          It’s not what you do when you try to stay under the radar

          And people walked down the street smoking pot in my state before it was legalized. We still said “FUCK the war on drugs” when they got harassed by cops.

        • Gabu@lemmy.ml
          4·
          9 months ago

          If their shit wasn’t so expensive and their games were released on PC, nobody would pirate it. Nintendo is shooting themselves on the foot then crying foul.

          • allan@lemmy.world
            1·
            9 months ago

            The switch is probably the cheapest mainstream gaming device. The games are expensive, granted. But they would definitely also be pirated on PC…

            • Gabu@lemmy.ml
              2·
              9 months ago

              But they would definitely also be pirated on PC…

              There’s a reason why Valve became an industry giant. Piracy is an issue of service, not price.

  • Q*Bert Reynolds@sh.itjust.works
    521·
    9 months ago

    Each dev kit is $450. Being able to test on an emulator is free. Sure, you ultimately want to test on hardware, but indie dev teams aren’t going to shell out that kind of money for each developer. Who gives a fuck about indie developers though, right?

    • merthyr1831@lemmy.worldOP
      7·
      9 months ago

      Hopefully, it wasn’t the success of Yuzu but the fact it was being developed by an established company which was accepting over $30,000/mo in donations for “internal” builds.

      It’s a lot easier to pressure a company that you know has a bunch of income, is firmly established in a country that recognises US copyright law, and makes a lot of money particularly on a legally contested technology.

      They’ve gone after Dolphin before, but that’s still up and going. If Ryujinx or some other Yuzu rewrite (a soft fork would be v easy to take down imo) goes down then I’ll be proven wrong here

  • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world
    151·
    9 months ago

    Wait I didn’t get it yet… Anyone theoretically know of another who knows another who may be able to send me a file related to or unrelated to the given subject?

  • Gabu@lemmy.ml
    121·
    9 months ago

    My already-installed copy of these softwares won’t go anywhere, Nintendo. Get bent.

  • spacebanana@lemmy.world
    133·
    9 months ago

    More people would purchase the games if they weren’t 60€ MSRP each regardless of size and quality.

    I used to emulate switch games to test them as a free trial first, then I would buy them in second hand for half the price (which is still a lot, 30€ for a nintendo game versus 14€ for Nichijou volume)

    • Aylex@lemmy.ml
      71·
      9 months ago

      And regardless of age! Their games never go on sale. And they don’t use local pricing (the actual term escapes me rn), so us poors in the 3rd world are stuck paying half a months salary for 7 year old games 🤪

  • forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml
    73·
    9 months ago

    Running their mouths on Discord. Using Patreon to profit from (not) piracy (but everyone knows it is). Reckless display of hubris.

    • Mesophar@lemm.ee
      21·
      9 months ago

      I mean, you’re right. I don’t agree with the emulators being taken down, it sucks, but it’s hardly surprising that Nintendo, a company known for strictly protecting their copyrights, would go after these projects.

      Hopefully other people and projects can pick up the reins, but should always be ready and prepared for another strike like this.