• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I wish more people would understand that it is possible to believe both that Assange has not been treated fairly and that he’s a colossal douchebag.

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      10 months ago

      It’s the tribal nature of humans - they try to make everyone they like flawless and everyone they hate completely flawed.

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        10 months ago

        For one thing, not being allowed to leave for the country where he’s sought and been granted asylum.

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            10 months ago

            The country where he is located Ecuador. That’s how embassies work. He is on Ecuadorian soil and should be allowed to leave for Ecuador.

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              And stayed at the embassy until he couldn’t any more and was arrested by the Brits. I still don’t see what’s unfair.

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                Again, the unfair part was not allowing him to leave for Ecuador. His Ecuadorian citizenship got revoked when the British arrested him, but he should not have been arrested because he was an asylum seeker granted Ecuadorian citizenship.

                Would you also oppose Jews seeking asylum in foreign consulates in pre-WWII Germany and Italy being taken out of Germany and Italy? One of those people was Albert Einstein.

                Or is Assange somehow a special case when it comes to seeking asylum.

                This isn’t even about Assange personally or whether or not he deserves to be prosecuted for what he did. This is about how the U.S. and Britain can get away with ignoring someone who has both been granted asylum and citizenship of a third country. And I don’t care if you are guilty or innocent of your crimes, that is simply wrong.

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                  That’s not how it works. In order to leave the embassy he would have to set foot on Brit soil, and he had an arrest warrant. He was not granted asylum by Britain, only Ecuador. As I remember, they were the only country to say yes. They changed government, and there you go.

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    So much about this entire situation is infuriating.

    First off, some of the stuff he disclosed and is being hounded over? Should have been disclosed. Was horrific monstrosities.

    Second, Assange is a piece of garbage and I stopped giving a fuck about his freedom when he involved himself in the free and democratic elections of other countries and influenced them. He interferes in elections. There is no greater display of a disdain for personal freedom than that so I’m having a really hard time caring about his own. Hypocrite. You don’t get to violate a law and then claim protections of that law itself. The same way that bigots don’t get to be intolerant and then claim that you must be tolerant of their views.

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    Two years later, a British judge ruled that while the US had shown it had a legitimate criminal case against Mr Assange, he could not be transferred because he may try to harm himself.

    “So you’ve got a legal case but he might try to kill himself so we have no choice but to allow him to get away with the crimes”

    What a psychotically stupid decision and another demonstration, in a long ass line, that the UK Courts are a fucking clown show.

    Fourth, that is the funniest possible image they could have used of Assange and I cannot stop laughing.

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      Early on, the Russian asset released some genuine information in order to establish some bona fides. But since then, he’s used his platform to create nothing but instability and strife. Never forget, the “pizzagate” bullshit came directly from WikiLeaks.

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        He reminds me of the bad guy from Skyfall. He’s an information broker who releases selective info, depending on what agenda he wants to push. Assange was an information terrorist, he got a hold of all the info, but only released the info that would hurt his opponents and kept hidden the info that would make his side look bad. He uses information as a weapon and he deserves no sympathy

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    Yes, he harmed the interests of the US government, but he’s an Australian Citizen. I don’t understand why he would be subject to US laws. Hell, why not try to extradite Putin while they’re at it? Makes no fucking sense to me.

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      what if instead of manipulating the electing he had sat in Canada an launched rockets across Niagara falls in to the USA? His actions have effects inside the USA and the victims are American criticizes, so America claims jurisdiction.

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    The courts will probably grant extradition just to get rid of him. Then the real whining can begin.