The Muslim call to prayer will ring out more freely in New York City under guidelines announced Tuesday by Mayor Eric Adams, which he said should foster a spirit of inclusivity.
Under the new rules, Adams said, mosques will not need a special permit to publicly broadcast the Islamic call to prayer, or adhan, on Fridays and at sundown during the holy month of Ramadan. Friday is the traditional Islamic holy day, and Muslims break their fast at sunset during Ramadan.
The police department’s community affairs bureau will work with mosques to communicate the new guidelines and ensure that devices used to broadcast the adhan are set to appropriate decibel levels, Adams said. Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level, the mayor’s office said.
I find the call to prayer more offensive than inclusive
You will hear it and you will like it.
To me it sounds like a particularly angry donkey
Having lived in Bedstuy where a loud Muslim prayer happens every Friday morning, it’s annoying as fuck and should not be exempted from ordinary noise ordinances.
I lived right next to a Mosque in Kensington (that opened up without a proper permit in a residential zone a year after I purchased my property). They used to broadcast their prayers at ungodly volume. It was loud as hell, would cut through my headphones and ruin any ability I had to do anything, even think straight. I made numerous noise complaints but nothing was ever done by the NYPD. Got so bad that I finally sold the place and moved somewhere dominated by orthodox Jewry just because I knew they’d serve as a bulwark against me ever having to hear any prayers again.
I’m sure that the people who think this is a good idea view it as a simple matter of religious freedom. It is not. My experience was one of having someone else’s religion thrust upon me. Church bells are annoying and loud, but they do not contain actual religiosity. I was always taught that my rights ended when I infringe upon someone else’s rights. Broadcasting prayers so loud it can be heard above the ambient noise in NYC is trampling on my rights to exist free of religion.
Believe whatever you want, but keep it to yourself. I feel awful for everyone who lives near a mosque in NYC.
Have you not heard the shabbat siren in Brooklyn ran by orthodox Jews and also run every Friday? They are literal air raid sirens in Williamsburg. https://www.jta.org/jewniverse/2014/brooklyns-weekly-shabbos-air-raid-siren
Yeah, these are annoying as fuck and should not be exempt from noise ordinances. This isn’t 1900, they all have phones they can get a notification if they really don’t know what day it is.
Every Friday isn’t that bad, here in Indonesia especially around Java it will be played every evening, some even plays it 5 times a day…
I wonder if this could be solved by Church of Satan setting up and blasting Slayer or some death metal at 10db above ambient. Seems only fair.
The Satanic Temple. They’re the awesome activists. The Church of Satan are a bunch of Ayn Rand-loving assholes who do a bunch of stupid woo-woo rituals and try to justify hedonism.
Thanks, I didn’t realize they were different
If they actually use it in the same manner (congregation, break fast, something besides just to make noise ), why not? After all, their point is “what’s for you is for me as well.”
I’m picturing some angry dude in an apartment near this place just blasting death metal out a, window to drown the prayer out.
It’s a start.
Religions shouldn’t get special privileges.
This is some backward ass bullshit. Keep your religious garbage to yourself. Complain about Christians forcing school prayers then have this dumb shit.
Religion: Get away without paying taxes, receive special privileges, and influence government policy!
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Well, they managed to put the foot in the door (you’re fucked) just you wait what other special treatments religious folk will require …
what if you live next door? Kinda like your neighbor’s dog barking or mowing grass if you work nights
Used to go to school near a mosque.
Their broadcasts are actually some really nice kind of singing, which is a lot less intrusive than the church bells I get across the village at 6 in the morning.
Wait until some dude with shitty voice does that…
It’s loud and high-pitched and unasked for anyway.
My GF lives by a mosque where they blast their off-tone, lazy chants at full blast. Its awful. Its so loud it rattles her windows. Apparently its to evangelize, but I can’t imagine anyone getting swayed when their ear drums burst from poorly toned chants.
Why am I thinking about c90adventures when he was in like Mexico and the market across from his hotel was blaring something over what im convinced were some old ww2 air raid sirens.
Nobody is getting swayed, but your gf may be tempted to move away, opening the place for more Muslims and creating a Muslim area.
I still think this issue can be solved with an app. In fact I am willing to help work on it as long as they promise to put it to bed.
You get a little cry to prayer on your personal device based on your location.
There’s hundreds of apps that already do this, I have two of them on my phone. There’s more to it than just the sound
And then Americans call Europe a New Mogadishu, lol.
So see if the city has like a max db for speakers, get a device to measure the decibels and complain on that front. Let them know you are not arguing about the prayer ( sucks but I think that battle is lost for now) but the noise level is disruptive
see if the city has like a max db for speakers
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Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level, the mayor’s office said.
Did you miss that part?
I actual did miss that, but the purpose of doing what I said would be making sure they did not exceed the decibel limit
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Good. Muslims deserve it.
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