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      Don’t wanna say I was expecting it but I was always kinda waiting for “something” to come out of ltt. A bunch of tech bros in their 30s still making penis and 69 jokes every video doesn’t seem like a good environment lmao

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        Yeah enough of their company culture had leaked into their videos and through some of the things Linus had said that I wasn’t really that surprised to see that thread. The power imbalance was thrown around for jokes and Linus comes off as a stingy bastard who will spend a ton of money in some places and then complain about a relatively trivial expense elsewhere. And the way he talks about it implies that he thinks everyone sees it that way.

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      Well yeah, LTT has long gone fully corporate. This was a problem years ago already, it was just always weird seeing so many flock to their channel when it was clearly a rote production like a 15 years ongoing weekly crime drama, not an actual tech channel.

      Their production value is often stellar, don’t get me wrong. But that’s it. That’s all they have. It’s all about optimizing the production to maximize ad revenue.

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        Imo, any large company, even if started hardcore by linus and luke (and co), will always in the end be mostly created by all the employees.

        The ownership of any large company should imo always be gradually moved over to the people who work there.

        Worker coops are not a silver bullet and will always be corruptible in any way any other democracy can, but at least it has the possibility to be proper, in contrast to strict founder / investor ownership where you are at their mercy.

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        I fully agree. But that’s the thing, if you don’t consider LTT as a tech channel anymore, like GN or whatever, it’s fine. I now consider LTT as pure entertainment, I will never go to them to actually buy a PC or a tech product. For that I go to forums, I watch multiple reviews, etc. And if the production value is all they have, I’ll just watch it like a show with actors that are - well - acting.

        I’m not trying to defend LTT, what they did was shite and I feel that they should be held accountable. But let’s compare apples with apples, LTT isn’t a tech channel anymore.

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          This is how I feel about LTT too. There should never be one single location you go to for all your review needs - even if it had every single product in existence in for review.

          I’ll look at LTT videos to see people doing dumb shit with tens of thousands of Britannian Monies worth of tech, sometimes there’s some genuinely good “hey, this exists” (see: PowerToys which gave me Spotlight on Windows), and sometimes it triggers a “hey I could use X, I’ll do my own research and collation of reviews”.

          If they can get their Labs up and running and their tests being transparent enough that they can be peer reviewed, then Labs will be a tool in the toolbox, not the toolbox itself.

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    I think this article misrepresents things. They left out the worst stuff.

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        I’m just a passive observer who’s watched maybe a few dozen LTT videos ever, but this here was also my take away and always has been with this organization. I don’t know how big this company is but they’re clearly at a level where they, as a company, are mostly in it for the money. For me as an outsider, LTT is becoming more well known for the problems it has more so than the service it provides.

        This blatant plug to ask people for money in what should be a somber apology video is arrogant and obscene. They’re acting as if they’re all-powerful and infallible in a video explaining their failures.

        It strikes me that they’re putting themselves in a position to rectify foundational disorganization because they’re more concerned about revenue than they are fulfilling their promise to to their audience - robust testing and reviews / critique that can consumers can trust without hesitance.

        Asking people to buy things should not at all cross your mind in the production of this video.

        With that said, if they are the mega-org that I presume they are, it’s their prerogative to be concerned about revenue more than anything else. As a consumer, I don’t find revenue-centric organizations among the top of entities I would deem trust-worthy.

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      If it happens, it won’t last. A PR stunt until they feel things have blown over and they’ll ramp right back up. People will notice and they’ll have a canned response ready which will include various employees saying how they actually prefer the fast pace.

      It’ll read very similar to all those HR posts on LinkedIn where employees everywhere seem to love going into the office and hate working from home…

      Save this post, because it’ll be less than a year I predict this will play out.

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        A PR stunt until they feel things have blown over and they’ll ramp right back up.

        It’s less of a stunt and more of human nature. They messed up, they realize it, they put controls in place to prevent similar errors, they get into a groove, they loosen the rules to streamline the process, they mess up, they realize it, …

        This is how every single entity in every single production industry works. Financial markets? Obviously. Food Safety? Of course. Buildings and bridges? Uh, yeah. Security? In the news all the time. Submersible adventures to the Titanic? LOL. It is an exceptionally rare condition where an error and a reaction leads to a permanent chance in procedure (though they do exist).

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        I don’t see anything wrong with that, and chances are they all are. It takes a good speaker to do it without making it feel artificial, but if you’re a big enough company you have marketing, legal and corporate vet all external announcements first, even for videos such as this. That’s just an entirely normal part of the process.

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    Who fucking cares? Stop consuming their content and they are gone

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    In my opinion he should step down as CEO of Linux, and hand the job over to someone more qualified, like Ethan Zusks.

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    As a casual viewer of LTT this is surprising. The show seemed relatively wholesome and helpful, but obviously I missed moments to the contrary that people are pointing out now. Being an infrequent watcher, seeing threads suddenly popup that call for Linus to step back/step down are like whaaaaaat. Internet is a fast moving place.

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      Seriously. This doesn’t belong here. I don’t know why PCG is wading into some youtuber controversy that seems to have only the most tenuous connection to their bailiwick.