• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    We didn’t give it directly to Ukraine, which is why this is happening.

    A bunch of countries were donating equipment through the same few routes thru the same countries.

    Even if it was cataloged and documented properly, it takes time to go all thru the chain all the way to the end and hear back. Especially since all the countries are probably asking.

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    11 months ago

    This is dumb. Most likely they just weren’t catalogued correctly because they were rushing stuff to the front lines. Doubtful anything went missing it’s just paperwork errors.

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      11 months ago

      Or - and this is heavily documented - the US Military has never passed any audit since they began being audited. This is just part of that.

      Doesn’t mean we don’t support Ukraine. Just means we need to hold the military accountable for the funds provided.

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        11 months ago

        the US Military has never passed any audit since they began being audited. This is just part of that.

        That’s mainly because there’s a shit ton of agencies in the DOD, and they send money between themselves and non DOD agencies constantly.

        If I pay you $100, but we lose the reciept, there’s no missing money. Just a missing receipt.

        However for those government audits, if we both were part of it then we’d each be off by $100. And rather than cancel those, they add them together and say combined we’re “missing” $200

        So the public hears about these huge numbers that probably don’t matter, and hardly anyone hears the actual number of missing money to know if we really should be mad.

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          11 months ago

          This is a good take but it disregards the realities of the financial recipients being unable to account for funds spent. I agree there are special circumstances but we need to have visibility to those realities as benefactors. Otherwise how can we allocate funds democratically.

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        11 months ago

        If they kept records, how would they get away with diverting so much of the money back into their pockets?

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          11 months ago

          Lol literally no way to find out because they don’t track it and have no reason to do it.

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    11 months ago

    Hmmmm… where have I heard this before? 🤔

    Oh! Right!

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1

    "The US flew nearly $12bn in shrink-wrapped $100 bills into Iraq, then distributed the cash with no proper control over who was receiving it and how it was being spent.

    . . .

    In the year after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 nearly 281 million notes, weighing 363 tonnes, were sent from New York to Baghdad for disbursement to Iraqi ministries and US contractors. Using C-130 planes, the deliveries took place once or twice a month with the biggest of $2,401,600,000 on June 22 2004, six days before the handover."

    It’s almost like the people in charge of this kind of thing REALLY should not be in charge of this kind of thing…

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    11 months ago

    I’m sure sloppily executed arms proliferation has never come back to bite the US in it’s ass, no biggie. At least we we’re sending them to the reasonable side this time.