• Mrkawfee@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Bonesaw wants to diversify his economy away from oil before the world dumps fossil fuels and Saudi goes back to being an impoverished shit hole. He’s desperate to catch up with the Emiratis who started modernizing 30 years ago and now attract the bulk of FDI in the region. They also signed a peace agreement with Israel under the Abraham accords. Got to keep up with the Jones’s.

    Bonesaw is a psychopath who doesn’t give a fuck about Palestine.The Israelis technological edge in massacring civilians probably gives him a hard on. He wants some of that.

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        I doubt it. Saudi Arabians are lazy and arrogant. The Emiratis are too but they have a tiny population (only 10% of the population, approx 1 million, is Emirati) and so they can afford to outsource everything to Western professionals Eastern oligarchs and slave labour. Saudi Arabia has 35 million people, half of whom are actual Saudis who are expecting to live a life of subsidized comfort for ever. On top of that there are oppressed Shia and religious extremists waiting to bring back real Sharia. As soon as growth stalls there will be trouble. Hence Bonesaw’s desperation to roll out insane Mega Projects that Western consultants are happy to charge a fortune for and to ignore distractions like Yemen and Palestine.

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    I hope Israel tosses Netanyahu and elects a more liberal leader who doesn’t want to genocide their neighbors. Netanyahu fucking sucks. Hamas fucking sucks. I want both to become history and for Israel to have peace with Palestine and the rest of the Arab world

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    Part of the intent behind the attack by Hamas was presumably to prevent normalization by inflaming ideological opposition, but normalization is still the pragmatic course of action. Israel is not a threat to Saudi Arabia and Iran is a common enemy. I’m not sure how to interpret the envoy’s remarks about an independent Palestinian state in this context, given that the current Israeli government is not open to that idea. I suspect that Mohammed bin Salman is privately more concerned about practical matters than about Palestinian statehood but he does not wish to openly pursue such an unpopular foreign policy.

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    i wonder what those 20,000 civilians died for, they could have grown up lived healthy lives, experience love, freedom, joy. but where are they now? under rubble , families and bloodlines erased.

    just what did their deaths bring?

    fuck hamas and iran for starting this issue. had the islamic revolution not have happened in 1979 there would have been no wars in middle east.

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      ‘’Hamas and Iran started this issue’’ – You got to be ridiculous to truly believe this.

      The Palestinian people lived in peace before Israel came to be in 1948. They even took some of the Jewish people in when WW2 was happening.

      Israel took over the land by force (with so called permission of Britain/US?) - Occupation. They drove out 750 000 Palestinian people from their homeland, while also killed many. Apartheid slowly came to be and Palestinian lives got to a horrible state.

      In 1987 Hamas was created to literally fight against the occupation (stolen land) and for the rights of Palestinian people (getting their homeland back, having normal living conditions and such).

      If Israel did not steal the land, drove out 750 000 Palestinians and killed Palestinian people (men, women and children). All this might not even have happened. The entire cause of this is because of the creation of Israel by stealing, murdering and apartheid – which all started in 1948.

      Certainly Israel was and is allowed to exist but not over the backs of the Palestinian folk (people), IE: Murdering men, women and children and Apartheid. That’s where it went wrong.

      Brittain or US could’ve given the Israeli people their own land, like a part of the US or Britain but nope They did not.

      Your ‘’freedom, joy and healthy lives’’ is delusional. People in Gaza are living in constant fear even without the current war. Israel have the entire control within Gaza; What goes out and in (food & drink supplies), electricity and water. They are not even allowed to leave the Gaza strip – Many children have tried and were denied for no apparent reason. You call that ‘’freedom, joy and healthy lives’’?

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        The Palestinian people lived in peace before Israel came to be in 1948.

        uhh hebron massacres? actually the violence was started by palestinians in 1913 when they murdered a non-violent zionist

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          My point still stands, your claim of “Palestinian living in peace” and that “Hamas and Iran” started all this is nonsenses.

          Taking one part of my entire text to ‘counter’ it is nonsense as well.

          However you are right. That murder was wrong as well and should have never happened.

          But I will repeat trying to push this current war on Hamas and Iran is literally trying to mislead people.

          ETA: Because I will repeat; Israel stole land, drove out 750 000 Palestinians while murdering men, women and children of the Palestinians.

          Of course at some point, some (a lot) will lose their mind and fight back in horrible ways.

          If peaceful revolution is not possible, violence revolution is inevitable.

          I will also like to add, Israel has been illegal settlements. Stealing homes of Palestinian people. Just check this video of 2 years ago;

          https://youtu.be/KNqozQ8uaV8?si=htvTecJigR7y3ALk.

          You are telling me; this is living in joy, peace and in a healthy way?

          ETA: Not to mention all Israel tactics of have been in align with Nazi-Germany. All their methods with ethnic cleansing, apartheid and reasoning behind it.

          There’s so many proof of history (articles, books, videos and photos) about it.

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            750 000 Palestinians while murdering men, women and children of the Palestinians.

            that was started by invading arab armies, you start wars you lose land and lives, the initial israel was much smaller. and that initial land was rightfully owned by israelis

            and 1948 UN resolution did not mention palestinians/ palestine, it mentioned a arab state