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To the Israeli lawmaker I ask:
Gazans? Certainly you mean Hamas, right? RIGHT? The military group that attacked Israel on Oct 7th. Because if you mean really mean “Gazans must be destroyed” then that is the dictionary literal definition of genocide.
edit: for clarity to whom I’m addressing my questions
They created this extermination camp.
Now they confirm they did it deliberately.
No country should ever support them again.And yet the US govt just said there is no war in Ba Sing… I mean… no genocide in Gaza.
This is an excellent reference. Very cogently used as well I might add. Avatar the Last Airbender was truly ahead of its time, and one of the greatest pieces of children’s media ever made in my humble opinion.
I wouldn’t call it ahead of it’s time, this is just history repeating itself.
It is media that’s consumable by children, but I would absolutely not call it “children’s media”. It is a show that can be - and is - enjoyed in depth by humans of all ages.
Liked it as a kid and really enjoyed a proper watch through as an adult
Yeah, but how will America maintain peace and security without a military base in the Middle East (btw totally not colonialism)? (/s obviously)
Maybe they can use all the other bases they have in the Middle East?
Less bases? ALL of your base are belong to us.
I know you’re being sarcastic but people unironically believe it. So let me just say they can use the largest US base in the Middle East which is in the UAE.
what’s clear to everyone is bibi and the far right are doing genocide. his popularity is around 4% over there, and the court just said sorry bibi, you still gotta stand trial for theft and corruption. what we call “the far right” is what the ancients called “evil.” it’s all about greed, lies, hatred, killing, blood, cruelty, and so on. nothin good come of it because it’s literally evil. doesn’t matter what the nationality or history of where it’s born. bibi has no more care for jews than he does for palestinians, just like the far right over here doesn’t give a rats ass about the rednecks and fanatics it winds up for its own gain.
But when I post anything anti-genocide - I get banned from Facebook for being anti-Semitic?
Well it’s because you’re not an Israeli lawmaker.
Israel means to assert that to be Jewish is to be genocidal.
Sounds pretty antisemitic of them
Israel also killed Israeli hostages and funneled money to Hamas. The Israeli government and IDF have a history of antisemitism
“It also confirms for many people in the world the allegation that Israel does intend to commit genocide,” he added.
Yes. Yes it does.
Do you ever wish you could be there just to call all of these people out? I mean I don’t possess the eloquence to do it right but still. Seeing people in suits calling for the destruction of others really makes me grip my palms.
If you lack eloquence you can always throw your shoe, the message is clear.
The lawmaker in question is Moshe Saada, number 28 out of 32 MKs from Likud (Israeli elections fix an order for each party, and legislative seats are awarded by that order).
He gave an interview on Channel 14, which is generally regarded as extremely right wing in Israel. Ahmad Tibi, number 1 on the Ta’al list, was the one who called him out for the statement:
Moshe Saada said this in response to the article:
The full interview is here on youtube (In Hebrew, no translation available).
He only said it once in a 13 minute interview and every other instance he’s talking explicitly about Hamas (L’hashmid Ha’Hamas). I’m guessing it was him searching for a word to include both Hamas and PIJ, but that might be too generous. But anyone thinking this is an official policy of Israel and that’s the way forward is delusional - almost every country on Earth has extremist members of their legislature.
I support palestine but this kind of reporting definitely seems dishonest. There absolutely is an argument to be made about it being a slip up and a showing of true colors, but saying this is clear evidence for the intent of a genocide is dishonest and only hurting the movement to free palestine. Thanks for pointing out that it was the only time in the interview where he says gazans, not hamas.
And keep in mind that the dishonesty extends to the OP, of which there are many in this sub with the motive to disseminate inaccurate rage bait articles.
Good thing you’re always out there on every article to defend israel against the dishonest OP’s.
This, but unironically.
No, it is as clear as yet another GOP representative saying we should ban abortion. That is obviously their party’s position. This is not the first Likuud member to outright call for a genocide. It is obviously the position of the Likuud party. Who happens to control the military and police in both Palestine and Israel.
Dishonest? The lawmaker literally said these words.
There’s a translated video in the article that doesn’t leave much room for creative interpretation like steventheIDF is suggesting https://twitter.com/i/status/1742415488519393502
anyone thinking this is an official policy of Israel
…need only look at their actions to confirm that
Pretty sure if Israel really wanted to kill every Gazan things would look dramatically different right now.
Are you aware of the irony of using Holocaust denial tactics to defend Israel?
it wouldn’t look “dramatically” different, maybe slightly. I think its more they want gazans gone and don’t care about how many people they kill.
Not really. The next step would be a systematic approach that could not be politically defended. They’re doing as much as they think they can get away with. And if, as several influential and high ranking Israelis have said, they’re clearing land for more settlements then it’s the ethnic cleansing form of genocide.
That is a possibility but we will have to remember this conversation in a year or two and see if they have placed settlements in Gaza or not.
No. You don’t just wait for the genocide to be complete. You act now.
Ok what do you want to do right now?
UN peacekeeping mission in the short term. Within the year remove Israeli police and military from all settlements. At that point Hamas can accept a peace and elections or lose any goodwill from Gazans and the UN can conduct a standard counter insurgency.
Imagine if everyone in the world assumed that everything that came out of Marjorie Taylor Greene’s mouth was official US policy
In context of everything else that’s happening, other remarks by his party, and the availability of “It’s clear to everyone that militants in Gaza must be destroyed.” There is no excuse. It’s just another layer of evidence.
Ok, so post reported.
On the one hand it’s a factual article about events that are clearly true. On the other it’s sensationalized and making a mountain out of a molehill.
The quality of the discussion on this article is bottom of the barrel “I hate Israel and you should too”.
I hate genocide regardless of who is committing it
It honestly seems pretty clear only to apartheid regimes hell bent on ethnic cleansing.
That’s the language of the team on defense!
So they are fast tracking from a Madagaskarplan to a Wannseekonferenz level, just with the roles of the players replaced.
If anyone should keep their fingers out of such ideas, it is Israel.
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