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    By “nobody is paying attention” do they mean it’s been plastered all over the news?

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      Yeah people are paying attention they love it. And the rest of us are paying attention and are disgusted.

      The only people not paying attention are the Republican voters who don’t care who the candidate is and just vote Red no matter what.

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      People are paying attention, but most people aren’t taking it anywhere near seriously enough. It’s the equivalent of seing an armed nuclear warhead and thinking pistol.

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        Many are taking it seriously, hence why there are so many posts about it here on lemmy and Reddit and other left leaning social medias. The problem is that his followers like his nazi rhetoric.

        The nazi on The Boys was right “people like what I have to say, they just don’t like the word nazi”, although many Americans don’t even have that problem sadly…

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          I’m not sure exactly, but treating him as just another politician like the media is? That ain’t it.

          He’s a cult leader at the head of a fascist uprising in the most powerful country in the world and most journalists are acting like it’s pretty much business as usual.

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            We’ve been pleading with the media to stop but we are not in control. I’ve done everything in my power to keep them out of my personal space but as long as I consume American products at American retailers they will remain funded and on the air.

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    Everyone is paying attention. His opponents are horrified, and his fanbase is eating it up.

    What do you want to have happen? SPLC to declare the RNC a hate group? Because that’s never going to happen…

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      It’s so crazy how obvious it was in 2015 too.

      It had me wondering one day after hearing the umpteenth Trump supporter sing his praises… Do you think an appreciable number of people like you saw the same obvious things about Mussolini and Hitler before their rises? Do we have some advantage now having seen these people before in the last 100 years? Do we have more casual access to information and history, so it’s more obvious to us now?

      Or is it this: They, like us, had simply not done enough to prevent their rise? Is it really “on you” or is it on all of us?

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        I had history classes on both the rise of fascism and propaganda so it was definitely fresh in my mind while watching it happen. Many places don’t teach these things though so it’s not surprising to me really. I don’t really see how there’s anything we can do to prevent stupid people from being exploited, except through education. Can’t teach someone who isn’t willing to learn though.

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    Literally everyone is paying attention. Half of the population just loves Nazi rhetoric though because it makes them feel like winners, when in reality, they’re a bunch of cousin fuckers with IQs under 95. They don’t understand what the Republican party stands for traditionally, they don’t understand the religion they promote, they don’t understand how their own electoral system works (FPTP w/ EC), and they don’t know a damn thing about history.

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    “…and nobody is paying attention…”

    This is something we read and hear about every single day. Not sure how much more attention we could give it.

    • 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚐@lemmy.world
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      The expert sounds like they are hoping that there are some adults within earshot that may suddenly wake up and rein him in.

      It don’t work like that in the really-real world unless it’s extrajudicial.

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    We’re all paying attention, the problem is that those who vehemently support him just literally don’t care and will vote for him anyway. He wasn’t wrong when he made the comment that he could shoot somebody in the middle of the street and get away with it. He literally orchestrated and attempted coups and got people killed because he threw a temper tantrum and couldn’t stand the thought of not getting his way.

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    Reality is scarier.

    Trump’s rhetoric is increasingly mirroring Nazi talking points, making him popular among Americans.

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      I marvel that Putin plays with fire like this. Yeah, sure, a Nazi America would make Russia so much safer

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    We are, we can’t jail or execute him. We have to wait and see if our justice system does it’s job.

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    As usual, centrists and news orgs who don’t want to call out the fascism Nazi parade for what it is don’t want to ostracize the potential Republicans who don’t think they’re Nazis by voting in Nazis.

    Nobody’s paying attention!!! Well, they are and you hear it loud and clear everywhere.

    Democrats are horrified and disgusted, ready to fight tooth and nail. While Republicans are goose stepping their way through the Capital smearing shit on the walls trying to overthrow elections.

    Gotta pretend like there’s still good people voting in Nazis that might change their mind though! Not that they’re voting in greasy BO old man shit smelling fascist dictators because they want fascist dictators.

    And right on time! MiGrAnT CaRaVaNs are being peddled again.

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    Nazi has been so overused that people aren’t listening to the word now that there is a valid thing to apply it too. They assume it’s the same overblown rhetoric.

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      You’re not wrong. I remember how Bush, McCain, Romney, Obama, Clinton, and others were called Nazis at different points. While it was never really taken seriously then (as it shouldn’t have been), the term has become virtually meaningless. Where the term was reserved for the worst-of-the-worst, for years, it was invoked at the slightest disagreement. Now that there’s a literal Nazi-adjacent person running and getting called out for it, it falls flat.

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    Trump isn’t the only one. You have this trend all over the world. People know that it’s looking like Nazi. But,

    The government’s inaction on foreseeable issues stemmed from a reliance on neoliberal principles, holding onto the notion that capitalism’s magic would resolve all problems—a perspective maintained for the past three decades.

    Trump and others are the solution that they didn’t try. Plot twist, it won’t change, Nazi were capitalist. But, it’s like choosing between the worst and the really bad.