Edit 1 :
If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.
There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.
You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.
If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.
Edit 2 :
I’m totally in favor with your post, but not everyone is willing to self-host or is capable of doing it. So I recommendation would be and one that I’m currently using, is when uploading a file to these cloud services encrypt your files. I’m using #cryptomator, but I’m sure there are other alternatives, like #rclone. There is also #veracrypt, but to my understanding, is not great for cloud sync.
Cryptomator official website Quick youtube video in how to use cryptomator (3:51)
Cryptomator is open source and free, but only on desktop. To use the mobile version, you will have to pay. Here is a list of alternatives to cryptomator, if you are familiar with one, please share your knowledge.
Edit 3 :
Don’t forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.
If you’re fed up with companies fucking you over there’s an alternative.
There software called Nextcloud which you can run on a server which works in comparable ways as Onedrive/Google Drive/Dropbox/etc. works.
You could host it yourself on a server if you know how.
If you’re not familiar with forwarding ports or setting static IP adresses you can rent some server space from Hetzner where Nextcloud is included.
i’ve recently figured out how dynamic DNSs work, i am unstoppable.
now i just need to figure out how to encrypt traffic…
LetsEncrypt offers free SSL certificates, if you’re familiar with reverse proxies then it’s not too difficult to implement. I have mine set up to automatically renew my wildcard cert, then send a special signal to the nginx docker container for it to reload the SSL certs
A more onedrive/google drive-like alternative to Nextcloud would be Syncthing, which is E2EE and doesn’t need additional config of SSL certs and the like
I got some angry letters from my ISP when I was younger for using dynamic DNS, ranging from it being a virus to it violating their terms.
No idea of they still get pissy about it or not.
what a shitty ISP. but i’m one to talk, i’m basically limited to two daughter companies of Telekom. god, internet sucks here.
They sold business packages and wanted us to buy one
Do you know if nextcloud is foss? Do you know any that are?
Yes, it’s licensed under GNU AGPL 3.0.
Perfect, looks like I have a small project to get started on!
They’re a FOSS fork of ownCloud.
I can copy past this on the resume ? Is it ok for you, I clearly agree, and don’t use that shit of DB ofc. I keep this link for relatives though
Don’t really know what you mean with resume but you can copy and paste this anywhere you want.
For real sorry, I’ve read what I wrote 🤣.
I meant the body of this post.
I’ve been using Nextcloud hosted by Hetzner for more than a year and it’s been working great.
Yet another reminder that the cloud is just a fancy name for someone else’s computer.
Don’t forget Syncthing, I always suggest it first since it doesn’t require a server or advanced knowledge to work.
Syncthing is great!
Yeah true,
Holidays or not, I’m in 420 consumer mod, I don’t think XD. I edit :p
DropBox has been dead to me since 2014 when they put former US Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice on their board of directors.
The only real way to opt out of this shit is to start using a better cloud and nuke Dropbox from every computer you own
There is pCloud which is based in Switzerland which has mostly the same regulation as the EU. They specifically state that they won’t use your data for commercial purposes. Until the company merges or gets bought I guess.
Ofc if it’s not end-to-end encrypted and all open source and self hosted, you can’t really be sure.
Awesome photo choice!
“What’s in the box?”
Time to fill dropbox with gos of eroticas.
“Third-party AI services are only used when customers actively engage with Dropbox AI features which themselves are clearly labeled,”
Should be fine since I never ever use DB then.
I never opted in, no DropBox, OneDrive nor GDrive.
The problem with cryptomater in my mind is eventually with quantum computing the encryption will be cracked. Even if you delete the file its stored somwhere else in their backups. There will be a treasure of good information even if its 10 yearas from now to be harvested.
encryption will be cracked
We don’t know that yet.
Use your own NAS
Why not just encrypt your data before uploading to the cloud?
why return the problem on the user ?
Because if not this it will always be something else.
As is usual in these cases, this is not legal in the EU and they cannot “legally” do this. However they might still choose to take the risk or factor in the cost of litigation.
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Self hosting isn’t a solution to replace off site storage.
you can have a nextcloud without self hosting.
But you will pay with money and not with your private contentYeah, I forget that sometImes.
You can selfhost Syncthing without having a server, using your daily devices.
Which is great, but still does nothing for off-site storage.
You always have at least one off site backup of anything important. For most people, that’s going to be some kind of cloud service. What you use to access that can vary a good bit (as someone reminded me, nextcloud services you can use rather than have it all be on site exist), but syncthing would require that you have someone else willing to have a device at their house, always connected, for it to be a viable pick this that aspect.
Don’t get me wrong, syncthing is awesome, but it isn’t a total solution by itself. Hell, my redundant off site backup is less hassle, tbh. I just swap out external drives when I visit my best friend. I take the most updated one, leave it and bring home the previous one from his place. It’s always a little behind, but it isn’t reliant on connectivity lol.
That’s what I was getting at. If all of your backups are at the same place, physically, you don’t actually have backups, you just have redundant copies. A backup that can be destroyed at the same time as other backups or the original isn’t really a backup at all. It’s good enough for a drive dying, but not for bigger events.
That’s what I was getting at, I just forgot that nexcloud services exist.
Your smartphone is already an always connected device, and you can manually do periodical backups on external drives which is a good practice in any case.
You can also set which device rules the file modification (sent or receive only as a folder).
I think it’s ok for most of the people. If you have a tons of precious files to save I can agree with you, but I think this type of “off-grid self-hosting” is just the future of personal data management.
