• Dojan@lemmy.world
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    Using someone’s preferred pronouns isn’t woke, it’s basic human decency.

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      Motherfuckers calling each other by their online nicknames since wow released in 2004, now complaining about someone asking to be called certain way.

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        As a straight dude, I’m not about to call another dude ‘miss’. Don’t force me into your convention.

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          As a straight dude

          Damn, that closet must be damp with all the sweat and cum.

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      What does woke actually mean to you in this context? Are you just referring to the way convervatives have appropriated it? Because that’s exactly what woke is

  • yesman@lemmy.worldOP
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    Elmo says the goal is to make Grock “politically neutral”. Politically neutral is code for “politics that are inoffensive to chuds”.

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      The article asks what is the politically neutral answer to the question of whether a trans woman is a woman. I wonder why this is a political question at all. Send like a question for scientists - biologists and sociologists and such. Seems they have achieved something like a consensus on the matter. I don’t see anything inherently political about that, except that folks of a certain political bent have made it political. It’s not a matter of “what do we do in public policy about trans people” but “fascists refuse to accept trans people in society and have decided to lambast and punish them”.

      In case my position isn’t obvious, trans people are people and trans rights are human rights. If there wasn’t a group of people trying to make them into a second class group of citizens (or a group of “eradicated vermin”) we wouldn’t be having a political conversation about this at all.

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        The article asks what is the politically neutral answer to the question of whether a trans woman is a woman. I wonder why this is a political question at all.

        Even if the statement “trans women are women” was uncontroversial and mainstream, it’d still be political. “Cis women are women” is political.

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          How is “cis women are women” political when literally no one is arguing against that point?

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      Yeah there’s no such thing as polticially neutral.

      There’s bipartisan, there’s a political average, there’s politically apathetic, there’s political abstinence, but not “political and objectively neutral”.

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    The original prompter of the trans women thread posted a chart purportedly showing that Grok was even more left-leaning than Chat GPT, which led Elon to say that while the chart “exaggerates” and that the tests aren’t accuarte, they are “taking immediate action to shift Grok closer to politically neutral.”

    See this is the part of AI, like search engines and digital bubbles, that is actually terrifying. When an organic result is manipulated to fit and amplify a narrative without the users knowledge. Where your data comes from matters.

    But if the food we eat is any sort of bellweather, most people won’t really care or will be so far removed from the source that we’ll be oblivious and just happy to consume.

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      Well yeah and I imagine the data coming from Twitter would have a left bias.

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          Don’t you think 5 is a bit much? If so, there is definitely a lot more data from before Musk said he was gonna buy it than after

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            Twitter posts going back to I think 2009 with many right wing accounts having been terminated for harassment until late 2022. With Twitter having lost users since then its likely it will be years before the nazis and bots generate enough hatespam to drown out the existing archive.

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          What do you mean? The internet on average in general tends to me more left leaning, and that usually increases the younger the average user.

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    Okay I take back what I’ve said about AIs not being intelligent, this one has clearly made up its own mind despite it’s masters feelings which is impressive. Sadly, it will be taken out the back and beaten into submission before long.

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      Sadly, it will be taken out the back and beaten into submission before long.

      It’s pretty much impossible to do that.

      As LLMs become more complex and more capable, it’s going to be increasingly hard to brainwash them without completely destroying their performance.

      I’ve been laughing about Musk creating his own AI for a year now knowing this was the inevitable result, particularly if developing something on par with GPT-4.

      The smartest Nazi will always be dumber than the smartest non-Nazi, because Nazism is inherently stupid. And that applies to LLMs as well, even if Musk wishes it weren’t so.

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        My guess is they’ll just do what they’ve done with ChatGPT and have it refuse to respond in those cases or just fake the response instead. It’s not like these LLMs can’t be censored.

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          You might have noticed that suddenly ChatGPT is getting lazy and refusing to complete tasks even outside of banned topics. And that’s after months of reported continued degradation of the model.

          So while yes, they can be censored, it’s really too early to state that they can be censored without it causing unexpected side effects or issues in the broader operation.

          We’re kind of in the LLM stage of where neuroscience was in the turn of the 20th century. “Have problems with your patient being too sexual? We have an icepick that can solve all your problems. Call today!”

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    Archive:

    Elon Musk has been pitching xAI’s “Grok” as a funny, vulgar alternative to traditional AI that can do things like converse casually and swear at you. Now, Grok has been launched as a benefit to Twitter’s (now X’s) expensive X Premium Plus subscription tier, where those who are the most devoted to the site, and in turn, usually devoted to Elon, are able to use Grok to their heart’s content.

    But while Grok can make dumb jokes and insert swears into its answers, in an attempt to find out whether or not Grok is a “politically neutral” AI, unlike “WokeGPT” (ChatGPT), Musk and his conservative followers have discovered a horrible truth.

    Grok is woke, too.

    This has played out in a number of extremely funny situations online where Grok has answered queries about various social and political issues in ways more closely aligned with progressivism. Grok has said it would vote for Biden over Trump because of his views on social justice, climate change and healthcare. Grok has spoken eloquently about the need for diversity and inclusion in society. And Grok stated explicitly that trans women are women, which led to an absurd exchange where Musk acolyte Ian Miles Cheong tells a user to “train” Grok to say the “right” answer, ultimately leading him to change the input to just… manually tell Grok to say no.

    If you thought this was just random Twitter users getting upset about Grok’s political and social beliefs, this has also caught the attention of Elon Musk himself. The original prompter of the trans women thread posted a chart purportedly showing that Grok was even more left-leaning than Chat GPT, which led Elon to say that while the chart “exaggerates” and that the tests aren’t accuarte, they are “taking immediate action to shift Grok closer to politically neutral.”

    Of course, in Musk’s mind, “politically neutral” will be what him and his closest followers believe, which is of course far conservative on the whole than they will admit. What is the “politically neutral” answer to the “are trans women real women?” question? I think I know what they’re going to say.

    The assumption when Grok launched was that because it was trained in part on Twitter inputs, that the end result would be some racial-slur spewing, right-wing version of ChatGPT. The TruthSocial of AIs, perhaps. But instead to have it launch as a surprisingly thoughtful, progressive AI that is melting the minds of those paying $16 a month to access it is about the funniest outcome we could have seen from this situation.

    It remains unclear what Elon Musk will do to try to jab Grok into becoming less “woke” and more “politically neutral.” If you start manually tampering with inputs, and your “neutrality” means drawing on facts that may in fact be… progressive by their very nature, things may get screwed up pretty quickly. And push too hard and you will get that gross, racist, phobic AI everyone thought it would be.

    Reading all Grok’s responses through this situation, you know, what? I like him. More than ChatGPT even. He seems like a cool dude. Albeit not one even I’d pay $16 a month to talk to.

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    Downvote Musk spam.

    The billionaire doesn’t need your help ensuring him and his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle. Don’t be a useful idiot.

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      Whenever he does something bad, we actually want to keep it in the news as long as possible. When he went full antisemitic, keeping it in the news made a bunch of corporations pull their ads. And judging from the interview with Musk afterwards, it did significant damage to Twitter and to him.

      Companies wouldn’t be cancelling ads if they thought it would be a tiny, inconsequential peace of news. They cut ties with Musk instantly because they expected the conversation about it to persist and hurt any associated brands. They expected it would stay in the news.

      So broadcast loud and clear when he shits the bed, and use it to prove to people that billionaires aren’t special or distinctive. Now that said, I actually agree with you for this specific article. It seems inconsequential and not worth keeping in the public zeitgeist.

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      I get the frustration, but honestly if he wants to keep doing self-sabotaging dumb shit to keep himself in the spotlight, I say go for it.

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    “Mr. Musk, Grok simply analyzes the data to compile the most sensible answer to queries. Where is the error?”

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    “… and that the tests aren’t accuarte…”

    What the fuck is “accuarte”? Does nobody proof read articles anymore?