Mississippi has long had high childhood immunization rates, but a federal judge has ordered the state to allow parents to opt out on religious grounds.
For more than 40 years, Mississippi had one of the strictest school vaccination requirements in the nation, and its high childhood immunization rates have been a source of pride. But in July, the state began excusing children from vaccination if their parents cited religious objections, after a federal judge sided with a “medical freedom” group.
Today, 2,100 Mississippi schoolchildren are officially exempt from vaccination on religious grounds. Five hundred more are exempt because their health precludes vaccination. Dr. Daniel P. Edney, the state health officer, warns that if the total number of exemptions climbs above 3,000, Mississippi will once again face the risk of deadly diseases that are now just a memory.
“For the last 40 years, our main goal has been to protect those children at highest risk of measles, mumps, rubella, polio,” Dr. Edney said in an interview, “and that’s those children that have chronic illnesses that make them more vulnerable.” He called the ruling “a very bitter pill for me to swallow.”
Mississippi is not an isolated case. Buoyed by their success at overturning coronavirus mandates, medical and religious freedom groups are taking aim at a new target: childhood school vaccine mandates, long considered the foundation of the nation’s defense against infectious disease.
How many children are going to die because of these very likely ‘pro-life’ activists?
Yeah but how many will it save from vaccine death or, worse, autism? I mean surely the vast number of deaths related to childhood vaccinations in the past four decades will uphold their argument.
Edit: /s
my dude desperately needs that /s
Yeah that’s on me. Oh well.
We dont live in a world where sarcasm is obvious anymore, man.
You can say the most made up ridiculous shit, and its still not as bad as somethign that has literally come out of someones mouth, probably infront of a crowd.
which is why i /s anytime, anymore, no matter how obvious it was.
and yours was pretty damn obvious, and still got a lot of people thinking thats real.
Thats not a reflection of you, so much as its a reflection of what has become of society.
Pretty sure this was sarcasm…
Can we just call these people pro-pestilence instead of dignifying them with names like ‘medical freedom activist’?
I swear this sort of euphemism has become the obvious tell that they’re up to no good and still demand respect for it
Up there with “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea” as far as names that usually mean the opposite of what they’re claiming, huh?
Get me out of this godforsaken shithole country.
Why are our least educated people trying to act like they know things about stuff? Who empowered these ass clowns?
I say fight to make it a better place.
But if you really want to leave, it’s honestly not that hard. Start a go fund me page, it might not get you everything you need, but put that money away and then do another one. Crowd source your exit plan. Keep doing it until you have the needed money. Might it take a few years? Yes.
What religions are against vaccines??
I don’t recall any of the major accepted religions saying that anything like a vaccine is bad. But these are the types of people who will probably use religion as a way to get out of anything they don’t like or they think it challenges “God’s plan”, even if it lets them live longer.
Yeah but this is exactly the kind of thing that should be rejected as it is not “a sincerely held religious belief”. You can’t claim it’s a religious belief when your religion does not hold that belief, only you do.
Christ Scientists and Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only two I can think of that might, and even them I’m not sure about.
None.
Its cherry picking what suits their argument in the moment.
Same reason they’d get offended and file criminal complaints if you throw stones at them for wearing mixed fiber clothing.
We want the freedom to have our own day in medical practice performed on our bodies!
But also ban all abortion care and all HRT and send people to prison for disagreeing!
Parents with autoimmune children will teach their children to take more precautions in life but with a stronger sense of love. Republican Parents will kill their children and their bloodline.
If Republicans are so hellbent on Killing Children let’s at least look at the bright side and note it’ll only last a generation or two.
Bullshit, and this is the same fucked up defeatist logic people used to avoid a covid vaccine mandate.
Anti-vaxxers are not just hurting themselves, and they are not hurting themselves more than the rest of us, and they are not hurting themselves anywhere close to fast enough to kill themselves off. If you were right, this wouldn’t be a problem at all. Anti-vaxxers don’t die at a high enough rate to counter the spread of their stupidity. Covid, Pertussis, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, these diseases kill the sick, the elderly, the young, and the immunocompromised. The people who suffer most are the ones who would get vaccines if they could. It’s dangerous to act like they are hurting themselves.
This should be the top comment
Parahprasing greatly here, but in her recent book, Naomi Klein pointed out that most Americans are pilled as fuck on neoliberalism, and because the pandemic is a naturally occurring and obvious contradiction to its fundamental tenets (individualism, meritocracy, competiton, etc.), the only way to square that circle was to go insane.
I find that framework very useful. These so called activists are pilled as hell on this fundamentally individualist concept of freedom that inundates us Americans from birth. It’s an almost entirely empty conception of freedom. Basically, we can say whatever we want while owning guns and generally being selfish. No one is entitled to be free of childhood disease though. That’s not freedom because it encroaches on others being selfish. If you genuinely believe in individual liberty above all, as Americans are taught from birth, then childhood vaccinations are wrong.
Unfortunately it’s a really fucking stupid way to run a society.
I generally agree with you except I’m on the other side. I would usually pick the freedom side of a freedom/safety trade-off, with “freedom” defined as freedom from having anyone else tell me what to do, not freedom from disease. I support the general principle that a person should not be compelled to undergo a medical procedure for the benefit of others.
With that said, mandatory vaccinations really are pushing the boundaries of my libertarianism. They’re good for the individual rather than a sacrifice simply for the sake of others, and having the large majority of people vaccinated has major advantages for everyone. I’d put them in the same category as fire departments (and I’m vaccinated myself) but because I get where the vaccine opponents are coming from, I agree with letting them opt out if they go through all the paperwork. That has most of the benefits of universally mandatory vaccination but without having to force anyone who really, really doesn’t want to for whatever reason.
(I suppose there’s a libertarian argument to be made in favor of personal liability for spreading disease. If you infect me with covid, I should be able to sue you for damages just as if you negligently caused me bodily harm via other means. Of course that’s entirely impractical.)
I support the general principle that a person should not be compelled to undergo a medical procedure for the benefit of others.
Get the fuck out of my society then
Your society?
Yes. Go start the retarded antivax society.
I don’t need to - someone else already did and called it the USA.
Hahaha, so you’re saying you live in a retarded antivax society?
I live in a society where antivax people have certain legal protections against medical compulsion regardless of whether you or I think that making use of those protections is “retarded”, so I suppose you could say that.
I support the general principle that a person should not be compelled to undergo a medical procedure for the benefit of others.
If vaccinations only protected the person being vaccinated and didn’t protect anyone else, I’d say “let people decide whether or not to be vaccinated.”! It would still be the better idea to vaccinate, but I’d be fine (in that theoretical world) with them choosing not to vaccinate.
However, I also believe that your right to swing your fist ends at my face. People don’t have the right to do things that actively hurt others. Not getting vaccinated means that you can transmit highly infectious and deadly diseases. Deciding not to vaccinate could mean that a person is deciding that other people will die.
Apart from valid medical reasons (e.g. autoimmune disorders or allergic reactions to vaccine components), people shouldn’t be able to opt out. In a society, we often curb the individual liberties to protect people. I’m not free to decide to drive drunk and it’s not because I could hurt myself by doing so. If I drove drunk, I could hurt other people and so it’s illegal.
Civil suits could be the answer, except it’s nearly impossible to prove that Timmy got measles when he passed by Jane in aisle B31 of Target. The level of contact tracing that would be required to absolutely prove this would be orders of magnitude more invasive than vaccines.
We shouldn’t allow “personal freedom” to skip vaccinations with the trade-off being other people’s lives.
We do let people make decisions that put others at risk, if that risk is small enough. You use drunk driving as an example of something which is illegal because it can hurt other people, but driving at all can hurt other people. Someone who drives a lot every day is more likely to accidentally harm another person than someone who doesn’t drive. Despite this, driving is legal and simply choosing to drive (as opposed to breaking traffic laws or driving recklessly) doesn’t make the driver liable if he hurts someone.
Is being unvaccinated more like drunk driving or like driving at all, in terms of the risk to others? I haven’t done the math but I expect that it’s more like driving at all, and IMO it would have to be a lot more dangerous than ordinary driving in order to justify the inherently onerous requirement of undergoing a mandatory medical procedure.
Driving does require licensing, though. You need to register with the state to say that you can drive. This license can be revoked if you don’t drive safely. If you drive without a valid license, you can get in a lot of legal hot water.
Vaccination might be compared to driving without a license. Let’s say you let one person drive without a license because they promised to drive safely. They might be fine and not cause any accidents. This is analogous to a small number of anti-vaxxers not getting sick/spreading illness because they are still covered by herd immunity.
However, as more people are allowed to drive without a license, more accidents would happen. This would be especially true if we allowed people exceptions to things like speed limits and driving on the sidewalk because their “sincerely held religious beliefs” state that they are allowed to do this. At that point, we’d have a lot of accidents and a lot of people being hurt.
There are a lot of regulations around driving (licensing, road rules, yearly car inspections) that are onerous in an effort to keep driving as safe as possible. Getting rid of those regulations “for personal freedom” would cause many, many deaths. Allowing people to just refuse vaccinations for any reason would also cause many, many deaths.
I was on one of the vaccine trials. Had a cab driver on the way back from one of my checkups go on a COVID rant. It was awkward after I told him why I was there. Lmao. I’d do it again, felt great being protected asap, plus money.
We may not see many repercussions from this now, but when the unvaccinated grow up and the viruses have had a generation’s worth of time to spread - just wait till a pregnant woman gets mumps and has a profoundly deaf baby. Or their toddler gets polio and ends up spending potentially years in a hospital, only to be released with lifetime disabilities. I know 2 people with polio, and one who is deaf due their mother having mumps (pre-vaccine days). Their lives, and the lives of their families, was/is hard. I wonder what grandma and grampa, safely vaccinated, will say when their grandkids start falling ill.
The people of “the party of pro-life”, trying to spread plague.
You can’t make this shit up.
There should be a mandatory vaccination against stupidity.
I luckily (for many reasons) don’t live in MS, but what if I don’t want to subject my kid to a miasma of germs from these plague rats? Where’s my freedom?
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Not a new target for them
“Medical Freedom” activists won’t look so tough when you cough on their unvaccinated hellspawn and 5 days later they’re grieving their death.
