Wow, so now the church is the one enforcing separation of church and state?
Are we in the upside down?
They don’t need to. There’s always a core of alt-right loud mouths in every parish who try to force their political opinions down everyone else’s throats.
Sometimes it’s the parish priest and their hard-right lackeys. Sometimes it’s leaders in the Knights of Columbus council for the parish. Sometimes it’s just regular church-goers. But there always seems to be a little group of them regardless.
Most parishioners just nod and smile and then disregard those guys. But my point is that even when the church officially forbids political endorsements in a higher level, others do it on a local level.
There’s also quite a few people in the US who are catholic in name only, and are actually against the pope/vatican. It’s so bad that last year the vatican ended up excommunicating an Italian archbishop and former diplomat to the US, because over the years he’d gone full blown conspiracy theorist maga. To the point where he was ranting about the new world order and called pope Francis a servant of Satan.
I saw a car with these two bumper stickers:
That was a very confusing day for me.
There is a significant group of conservative Catholics who view any change as a departure from the One True Faith™. You can still find churches that do not follow the modernizations from the Second Vatican Council, which happened back in the 1950s. Pope Francis was seen as a radical by many of these people.
Yes, at first it’s weird to think that people join an authoritarian organization like the Catholic Church, ostensibly believe that if they don’t follow its teachings that they will suffer an eternity of punishment, and then switch to follow a billionaire grifter.
But if you consider that churches teach you to obey without thinking for yourself, it makes a lot more sense that people get confused and start obeying the louder person, instead.
Very true, but still pleasantly surprised by this small RCC w. A small move, but one in the right direction at least.
Like Frank Pavone
As a Catholic and as a moderator of https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/Catholic, I think this is a good move by the bishops. The Catholic Church is not defined by modern political divisions. We have priests walking with immigrants to court to discourage ICE from kidnapping immigrants, we have prayer groups outside most abortion clinics, we have protestors at every execution (capital punishment), we are told by our bishops to care for the poor, both personally and through the government we elect, and we are told that the right to life is a fundamental issue. We oppose the legal recognition of same-gender marriage and the acceptance of gender as a self-imposed construct. My bishop has helped promote legislation targeting payday lenders and other usurers while also doing the same in opposition to assisted suicide. We are a mixed bag. We are on both sides of the aisle. And both parties really want to gain our vote. If we self-declare an allegiance to either party, that harms our position. We risk becoming like the partisans on both sides who, as we often see, change their views to fit what’s convenient for the political party.
You might want to have a talk with the clergy then. My mother was telling me about a traveling priest that came to lead mass recently and during his sermon had the audacity to blame our current divisiveness and problems on the “left.” Disgusting behavior if you ask me. The church has NO place in politics.
It happens but never fast enough, and man the church has its problems. We had one call the pope a wolf in sheep’s clothing for supporting “the jab”; people walked out.
A couple months later, he was removed without goodbyes or explanation, and is no longer a priest. I would like more swift and public justice for the ones causing public scandal.
that has never stopped the local parish from doing just that. they also have people (some of whom are employees) who sit in social media and spread the political bullshit.
Evangelical Churches: “Hey Pope, hold my beer.”
“AND TRUMP…DESCENDED WITH THE WINGS OF AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN! AND HE EXCLAIMED:
In Trump’s letter to the Persians, chapter 14 verse 88.
Not even just the evangelical churches. I’ve heard and seen Catholic church priests get political and condemn leftist ideology recently. Fat old boy touchers telling you to embrace Trump and reject basic human decency. Birds of a feather eh?
This change wasn’t for the Catholics. This was a change to allow for the MAGAs to become a tax exempt church. They are already a cult now it will become a protected religion.
I know the new pope don’t like trump, so they’ll use that when the pope say he’s a bad person and turn it political.
No donations for you then though. We know where this is going. Athiest numbers will surge.
Im should make my own
cultreligion so I can spend tax free money on politics. Seems like a good time historically speeking to have your owncultreligionSettle down, L. Ron Hubbard.
Pope become US president, when?
The Pope isn’t really eligible to be President without first renouncing the papacy or getting congressional approval, and in the case of the latter there would likely be a fight between Congress and the Supreme Court over it
They got a high criminal spy as president. I think the pope should win in a landslide
