• AlmightySnoo 🐢🇮🇱🇺🇦@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I love how after all the tankie YouTube videos boasting the “superiority” of Russian arms, the S-400 and S-500, Iskander etc… we finally get to see that the entire Russian military is just vaporware.

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      1 year ago

      At least with the air defenses the weakness that was exploited would be common to all air defense systems. It’s a failure of tactics/strategy instead of a technical issue with the system.

      The Ukrainians started throwing tons of cheap drones at targets and forced a dilemma: 1) Engage the drones, exhaust the air defense systems’ capabilities, and then the air defense systems get targeted by cruise missiles/air strike or 2) don’t engage as many drones, which lets them reach their targets.

      Israel’s vaunted Iron Dome system was also overwhelmed with the sheer amount of relatively cheap rockets from Gaza during the Oct 7th attacks, but obviously Hamas lacks the sophistication to follow that up with attacking the systems themselves.

    • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      I don’t think that’s entirely fair, the system wasn’t operating at the time of the attack. It does seem to work, it just jams absolutely everything.

    • ours@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Overhyped systems and a combination of “it would be quite effective if someone didn’t sell half its components on the black market”.

    • rafa@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      How are you supporting nazis and jews at the same time bro?

  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I do wonder what the impact will be on Russia’s military equipment export business thanks to this war. It’s pretty clear now how inferior their tech is compared to the west.

  • agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    I bet the jammers were unsophisticated enough you could just program the GPS to continue moving in the direction where the over the air noise levels kept increasing.

    • brianorca@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      The bombs were probably using the encrypted military GPS frequencies that are more resistant to jamming.

      • SuperJetShoes@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        As another commenter said, I don’t think cryptography is the main problem.

        You’ve got to be able to modulate some numbers out of the radio signal first before you need to be concerned if it’s encrypted or not.

        GPS signals from power conserving satellites are so weak that I’d imagine that overwhelming them with noise on all frequencies would be the easy answer. (Although there’s a Big Brain hyper-cunning answer to that…).

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          1 year ago

          Some GPS jammers are known to transmit, instead of noise, a bad signal which creates an offset in the timing to calculate a false position. But with encrypted military GPS, that’s not as effective.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Can’t a GPS jammer be targetted simply by anti-radiation missiles?!

    In my ignorance I’m thinking of it as basically a single really powerful emitter in a certain range of frequencies which would really stand out with the appropriate frequency filter, plus it’s not as if there would be any other ground-based emitters around in that range of frequencies as civilians for obvious reasons aren’t supposed to be using devices which emit in that range (receive, sure, but not emit).

  • fne8w2ah@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    That “jammer” was definitely tampered with by the russkies’ corruption and greed.

  • TWeaK@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    This title confused me, because A-GPS is also a thing.