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    Anybody who doesn’t have anti-israel policies at this point is a piece of shit.

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    Shouting about antisemitism every single time someone criticizes the GOVERNMENT of Israel surely will stop working sometime?

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          How are you not in prison? I thought they arrested Germans who protested the genocide, no? I even saw them attacking Jews in the name of “antisemitism”

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              I am serious. The German police arrested Jews in the name of antisemitism.

              It does sound absurd, but it also happened in the US on college campuses

              afaict the greatest threat of antisemitism in the past year has been police attacking Jews in the name of “preventing antisemitism”

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                From what I looked up right now people where arrested for use of signs of unconstitutional organizations, defamation, incitement to racial hatred, bodily harm and property damage.

                I couldn’t find anything about Jews being arrested for being antisemitic so do you have some sources for me?

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                  Well the problem is the police conflait anti Zionism with anti semitism. Same issue in the US.

                  Peacefully say that Israel is committing a genocide and should not exist because the Nakba, and they’ll (wrongly) say you’re spreading antisemitic hate speech and arrest you.

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      Embassies are integral for international relationships with both friend and foe. Despite how much more news of war is placed in front of modern people via electronics, war is much more rare than it was a thousand years ago. That is because we have ways to communicate and negotiate even with people we hate.

      Fuck Israel, they’re absolute fools to start cutting relations with any EU state.

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    whatever Ireland is doing they should keep doing it to close a terrorist states embassy.

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    Bibi clearly has aggressive dementia to think cutting all diplomatic ties with any EU state is a good idea. Even if USA, Canada, and UK still provide military equipment and training they need the other NATO members for food, transit, and other support across Europe into the middle east.

    He’s really setting himself up for collapse of the Israel government.

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    These are not the same jews from 80+ years ago. How generations have changed and the well has been poisoned. I sympathize not with today’s Jews and today’s Israel as I would for the Jews and Israel of generations past.

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      this comment right here is why zionism is antisemitic. it poisons people who don’t know any better into thinking israel represents judaism.

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        Even Hamas, who is getting bombed by people saying “We’re doing this because we’re Jews and this is Jewish land” sees through that and makes a distinction between Jews and Zionists. Some guy living in the imperial core who has never been victimized has no excuse.

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          No they don’t. That’s just their PR to the west

          For them, just like the zionists, it’s purely a religious contest

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            So you think the Hamas Charter, an Arabic-language document, was made entirely for western PR?

            Also, religion is orthogonal to Zionism; most Zionists are American Christians like Joe Biden. Israel is a settler-colonial project first and foremost, and religion is simply a tool it uses for that purpose.

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            yeah hamas sucks. it’s important to understand though why people are turning to hamas right now: it’s that, or die. so there are a lot of people with hamas right now who don’t hate jews, but are fighting alongside or even under a terrorist group who does genuinely and deeply suck.

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      Zionism is as much “Jews” as Nazism was blue-eyed blonde people: they’re both very similar ethno-Fascist extremely-racist ideologies which glue themselves to an ethnic group claiming to represent them even while plenty of members of that ethnic group very overtly say “They do not represent me”.

      Never believe Fascists when they claim to represent a nation (in the case of the traditional Fascists) or a race (in the case of the ethno-Fascists). In fact, the more general rules is “Never believe Fascists”.

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      It’s cool how you think 15 million people are all a hive mind who thinks and acts the same way

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          He’s kind of right though, if you’re interested in understanding the flaw of your approach here you might try to read up on “The fallacy of composition” which is the fundamental logical flaw you’re sitting on at the moment that the responder is taking issue with, albeit impolitely.

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          you need to go outside and talk to like… people. you did a logical fallacy, got called out on it, and then dug your heels in. lemmy and mkin for whatever reason manages to make people really angry and sometimes the best thing to do is just… log out for a couple months.